{"id":225017,"date":"2017-07-02T01:28:57","date_gmt":"2017-07-02T05:28:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-kmov-com-kmov-com.php"},"modified":"2017-07-02T01:28:57","modified_gmt":"2017-07-02T05:28:57","slug":"living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-kmov-com-kmov-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/immortality\/living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-kmov-com-kmov-com.php","title":{"rendered":"Living to 125 and beyond: Scientists dispute there&#8217;s a limit to &#8211; KMOV.com &#8211; KMOV.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    (CNN) -- Don't mess with our collective dreams of immortality.    A flurry of new research vigorously opposes a study from last    year that dared to suggest there might be a ceiling to the    human lifespan.  <\/p>\n<p>    In onenew paper, Dutch scientists predict that,    by 2070, our lifespan may increase to 125 years while beyond    that, the sky may be the limit. Their analysis was published    Wednesday in the journal Nature.  <\/p>\n<p>    The debate over hisoriginal paper, published last October in    Nature andwidely reported by CNNand other media    outlets, took Jan Vijg, senior author, by surprise.  <\/p>\n<p>    For a biologist, a natural limit to the lifespan \"makes a lot    of sense, so that's why I never imagined the paper would stir    up so much comment,\" said Vijg, a professor at Albert Einstein    College of Medicine in New York.  <\/p>\n<p>    To prove a 125-year lifespan is possible, researchers from the    Netherlands Interdisciplinary Demographic Institute team began    their study by refuting the relationship between age and    immortality posed byBenjamin Gompertz.  <\/p>\n<p>    This 19th-century mathematician pored over mortality data and    noticed that young people have a very low chance of dying. Yet,    in middle age, the chance of dying increases and then rises    again dramatically in old age.  <\/p>\n<p>    This exponential increase in the rate of human mortality has    long been accepted wisdom, yet the Dutch researchers decided to    challenge it. Instead of basing their work on data derived from    the general population, they used data from a group of people    noted for their long lives -- Japanese women.  <\/p>\n<p>    Using mathematical models, they claim mortality goes down in    old age and projected an astounding new human lifespan -- 125    years -- will be achieved by 2070.  <\/p>\n<p>    Along with this theory, an additional four separate papers poke    holes in Vijg's work. ACanadian teamof scientists claims    Vijg's original paper is based on statistically \"noisy\" (or    meaningless) data. Meanwhile, a research team from    theUniversity of Copenhagenargues that    any inferences about lifespan potential are premature; a team    from theMax Planck Instituteclaims there's    simply no evidence of a \"looming limit;\" and a team from    theUniversity of Groningenoffers four    cohesive arguments contesting the conclusions drawn by Vijg's    team.  <\/p>\n<p>    What inspired this heated debate?  <\/p>\n<p>    In their paper, Vijg and his graduate students, Xiao Dong and    Brandon Milholland, analyzed aging trends in the United States,    the United Kingdom, France and Japan.  <\/p>\n<p>    Vijg explained that their analysis was based not on some    mathematical model that projected future data, but on \"actual    data\" of real human lives. They examined not one but two    different data sets, and what they observed was that, despite    life expectancy being dramatically higher than it was 100 years    ago, the probability of anyone living for more than 125 years    was unlikely.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Initially, you see this increase every year and you see this    oldest record holder until the 1990s, and then it stops,\" said    Vijg. \"Think about it, how strange it is.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The number of healthy centenarians increased dramatically every    year. That being the case, Vijg theorized \"the supply is    certainly there\" to create more record-breakers, every year,    yet there were none.  <\/p>\n<p>    Vijg wondered, \"How is that possible?\" A decades-long plateau    following years of new old-age records must mean humans have    reached the lifespan limit, he and his colleagues concluded.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is a rather logical conclusion for biologists, who have long    seen that individual animal species each have a particular span    of time in which they are born, develop into maturity, and then    die, Vijg explained.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"WhenJeanne Calmentdied, I really thought that    this was the beginning of something very dramatic,\" said Vijg.    Jeanne Calment died in 1997 at age 122, which remains \"the    greatest fully authenticated age to which any human has ever    lived,\" according toGuinness World Records.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hearing about Calment's long life, Vijg rebelled against the    accepted wisdom that lifespan \"must be fixed, it must be like a    ceiling.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet, testing the theory, Vijg and his co-authors found no fresh    old-age record breakers. Sure, the Canadian scientists who    created a mathematical model found random plateaus, some seven    years long -- but still their research fails to explain a    plateau of decades, said Vijg.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Canadian scientists may believe their research disproves    his, but instead, it \"is a beautiful confirmation of what we    found,\" he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"They want us to be wrong,\" said Vijg, who with his colleagues    published arebuttalto all the criticism. \"I can    see that it's very depressing when you find out that we can    never get older than 115 years on average.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Vijg, though, is not a depressed man.  <\/p>\n<p>    He says he's seen the tremendous strides made in all scientific    fields as well as technology and hopes that someday the aging    process might be halted.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"We may be able to do that at some point, as I say, by the way,    at the end of my paper,\" said Vijg. \"But if we are not able to    do that because aging turns out to be still very mysterious, or    a process that we cannot really intervene with, then we are    stuck with a real maximum lifespan that fluctuates around 115.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Accept it,\" he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    The-CNN-Wire     &  2017 Cable News Network, Inc., a Time Warner Company.    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