{"id":224608,"date":"2017-06-30T06:45:54","date_gmt":"2017-06-30T10:45:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/same-sex-marriage-why-liberal-germany-took-so-long-to-give-gay-couples-equal-rights-newsweek.php"},"modified":"2017-06-30T06:45:54","modified_gmt":"2017-06-30T10:45:54","slug":"same-sex-marriage-why-liberal-germany-took-so-long-to-give-gay-couples-equal-rights-newsweek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/liberal\/same-sex-marriage-why-liberal-germany-took-so-long-to-give-gay-couples-equal-rights-newsweek.php","title":{"rendered":"Same Sex Marriage: Why Liberal Germany Took So Long To Give Gay Couples Equal Rights &#8211; Newsweek"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    It was in the year 2000 that David Staeglich, one of the    organizers behind Berlin Pride and Pride Germany, first got    involved in LGBTactivism. A year later, the movement won    a major victory when the governmentthen a center left-green    coalitionlegalized civil unions for same-sex partners.  <\/p>\n<p>    At that time I thought, OK, this year we have the civil    partnerships, and maybe in three or four more years there will    be marriage equality, he tells Newsweek .  <\/p>\n<p>    But it didnt turn out that way. It was only this Friday    morning, over 15 years later, when Germanys parliament finally    voted in favor of allowing gay couples to wed by 393 votes to    226.  <\/p>\n<p>    Daily Emails and    Alerts- Get the best of Newsweek delivered to your inbox  <\/p>\n<p>    The intervening years, Staeglich says, were frustrating: It    turned out [that] there are no reasons to be proud about    Germany and the German government because all the countries    around [us] changed a lot [but] Germany stood on the same    place.  <\/p>\n<p>    Germany follows the United Kingdom (2013), France (2013), the    United States (2015), and a host of other nations that have    agreed marriage euqality between heterosexual and same-sex    partnerships.  <\/p>\n<p>    Staeglich, who was speaking while meeting other    LGBTactivists from across the world in Madrid a day    before the result, coincidentally on the last day of Pride    month, said hed be celebrating: I think I will... drink as    much champagne as possible. We will have the party of my life    here in Madrid.  <\/p>\n<p>    The fact that it took so long for relatively tolerant    Germanywhere 83 percent of Germans back gay marriage,    according to a recent pollto equalize its marriage laws is in    a large part down to politics. In 2001, the country was run by    the center-left Social Democrats (SPD) and the environmentalist    Greens.  <\/p>\n<p>    But since 2005, Germany has been led by     Chancellor Angela Merkel and her center-right Christian    Democratic Union (CDU) party, at the head of a series of    coalitions.  <\/p>\n<p>    Merkel may now have a reputation is a liberalon the world    stage, thanks largely to her 2015 speech welcoming refugees and    her regular rhetorical sparring sessions with U.S. President    Donald Trump, but her political grounding is firmly    conservative.  <\/p>\n<p>            People    dance in front of the Victory column as they participate in the    annual Gay Pride parade in Berlin, Germany July 23, 2016.    Germany's parliament just voted to allow same-sex couples to    wed. Stefanie Loos\/Reuters  <\/p>\n<p>    The chancellor, like many in her party, is a committed    Christianand an often cautious politician. In 2005 she    said in an interview: man and wife, marriage and family, stand    at the centre of our social model, so other lifestyles should    not receive comparable constitutional protections, according    to The Economist.  <\/p>\n<p>    In Fridays vote, where lawmakers were allowed to vote with    their conscience rather than along partylines, the    Chancellor herself opposed the move.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jens Spahn, Germanys Deputy Finance Minister, himself a gay    man and a proponent of gay marriage within the CDU, admits in    an interview before the vote that his party is still coming to    terms with the issue, and that many within it still oppose it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Die Welt reported    that at least 70 of the lawmakers representing the CDU and its    smaller sister party the CSU, roughly a quarter of the total,    backed the change. I just realize that there is an ongoing    process right now, Spahn says.  <\/p>\n<p>    But should Merkel have spotted the public mood and moved    earlier? Well actually I didnt expect it to happen this week,    not before the election, Spahn says. (Germans will vote in    September.) We can argue now if it should have been done    earlier, if it should have been done after the election,    whenever, theres never the right time.  <\/p>\n<p>    Merkel said on Monday that she had begun to change her mind on    the issue of gay marriage after an invitation to dinner in her    constituency at the home of two gay women who were caring for    eight foster children. But the move was read in Germany as    pre-election positioning.  <\/p>\n<p>    Two rival parties and potential coalition partners, the SPD and    the centrist Free Democrats (FDP), both back the change, and by    allowing a vote without a party whip Merkel could neutralize    the policy as an issue for the general election without having    to fight her partys more hardline conservative members.   <\/p>\n<p>    Spahn, though, quotes British Conservative ex-Prime Minister    David Cameron, who once said: I don't support gay marriage    despite being a Conservative. I support gay marriage because    I'm a Conservative.  <\/p>\n<p>    Backing the change is logical for right-wingers, says Spahn:    Its because of values. When two peoplewant to stay to each    other, they want to actually care for each other, before asking    society to help them they will help each other first, then that    is a value that we as Christian Democrats should cherish.  <\/p>\n<p>    It isnt just the ruling party that has opposed the shift.    However tolerant the majority of Germans,divisions    remain.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you go into the countryside being a lesbian girl or a gay    boy in a small village, says Staeglich, it is still not that    easy to call themselves a gay person, or a queer person.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the Catholic state of Bavaria, the largely Protestant CDU is    represented by its sister party the CSU, which remains    staunchly opposed. And there are differences in the perception    of homosexuality between men, which was decriminalized in East    Germany in 1968 and in the West in 1969, but still partly    criminalized until 1994 (when the age of consent was    equalized), and between women, which was never technically    illegal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Staeglich hopes that gay people being able to marry like anyone    else will change the minds of some traditionalists: From that    point on you can just argue and say: Well, hello? I have the    same life, so why are you discriminating [against] me? Because    now, our parliament took the decision that we are the same,    he says. And to give further cause for hope, even the    hard-right populist Alternative for Germany party, which    opposes gay marriage, elected a gay woman as its leader in May.  <\/p>\n<p>    As elsewhere, there are many battles still to fight for    Germanys LGBT community, but the shifts are palpable and    dramatic.  <\/p>\n<p>    But aside from all of that, one choice remains for gay people    in Germany: Now they have the right, will they take the plunge    and pop the question? Until now I always told my partner, as    long as it is not officially allowed why should we marry,    jokes Spahn, now I have to think about a better phrase. We    will see. He laughs: I would never say never.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See more here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/same-sex-marriage-lgbtq-germany-gay-rights-angela-merkel-630234\" title=\"Same Sex Marriage: Why Liberal Germany Took So Long To Give Gay Couples Equal Rights - Newsweek\">Same Sex Marriage: Why Liberal Germany Took So Long To Give Gay Couples Equal Rights - Newsweek<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> It was in the year 2000 that David Staeglich, one of the organizers behind Berlin Pride and Pride Germany, first got involved in LGBTactivism. A year later, the movement won a major victory when the governmentthen a center left-green coalitionlegalized civil unions for same-sex partners. At that time I thought, OK, this year we have the civil partnerships, and maybe in three or four more years there will be marriage equality, he tells Newsweek .  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/liberal\/same-sex-marriage-why-liberal-germany-took-so-long-to-give-gay-couples-equal-rights-newsweek.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[431665],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-224608","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liberal"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/224608"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=224608"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/224608\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=224608"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=224608"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=224608"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}