{"id":220865,"date":"2017-06-18T18:52:55","date_gmt":"2017-06-18T22:52:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/the-state-of-my-dangerous-liberal-rhetoric-will-remain-strong-and-loud-daily-kos.php"},"modified":"2017-06-18T18:52:55","modified_gmt":"2017-06-18T22:52:55","slug":"the-state-of-my-dangerous-liberal-rhetoric-will-remain-strong-and-loud-daily-kos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/liberal\/the-state-of-my-dangerous-liberal-rhetoric-will-remain-strong-and-loud-daily-kos.php","title":{"rendered":"The state of my dangerous liberal rhetoric will remain strong and loud &#8211; Daily Kos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    First of all, its not like this is really a new argument    theGOP has decided to put forward following this    shooting. Just a few days prior, Eric Trump railed about the    hate that has been heaped on him and his father following a    report that The Donald had been skimming money from Erics charity foundation directly into his own    pockets.  <\/p>\n<p>      In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other      charities, it's clear that the course wasn't free--that the      Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of      more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past      the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed      expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day      golf tournament.    <\/p>\n<p>      Additionally, the Donald J. Trump Foundation, which has come      under previous scrutiny for self-dealing and advancing the      interests of its namesake rather than those of charity,      apparently used the Eric Trump Foundation to funnel $100,000      in donations into revenue for the Trump Organization.    <\/p>\n<p>    Erics response to this report, which came from that dirty    rotten hippy publication Forbes,was to argue    that All Morality is gone and these are not even people.    But its actually more telling to listen to what else he said    because he made this not just personal, but into a specific    target attack on the entire Democratic agenda in    general.  <\/p>\n<p>      Asked by host Hannity, Dont you wish you went to Washington      so you could deal with this everyday? the presidents son      sneered at Democrats.    <\/p>\n<p>      Ive never seen hatred like this,  he responded. To me,      theyre not even people. It is so so sad.    <\/p>\n<p>      Morality is just gone, he continued. Morals have flown out      the window. We deserve so much better than this as a country.      Its so sad  you see the Democratic Party and they are      imploding. Theyre imploding, they have no message.      You see the head of the DNC who is a total      whack-job. Theres no leadership there. And so what do      they do? They become obstructionists because they have no      message of their own.    <\/p>\n<p>    Democrats are obstructionists because they have no message of    their own? Frankly, the Republicans and the president    havent even taken the first steps to try and reach out to    Democrats on anything. Demsactually do have some fairly specific proposals on    healthcare, but instead congressional Republicans passed a    bill without their inputdespite    a horrible CBO score and now the Senate Republicans are    doing the same thing almost literally under the cover of night using a secret bill    that no one has even seen.  <\/p>\n<p>    I would argue that our agenda is to remain part of the Paris    Climate Accord, to further investments in, and support of,    clean and renewable energy sources rather than gut them as Trump has    threatened, to retain and repair the Affordable Care Act    rather than repeal it, to strive to make college affordable if    not free, to address the opioid crises by increasing access to    treatment rather than cutting that funding, to    increase mobility for workers whove lost their jobs by helping    them retrain for newly emerging industries rather than cutting that funding    orgutting worker safety rules, we would    prefer to continue to investigate and reform abusive police    departments rather than ignore them and shut down effectivecivil    rights enforcementand that stating ourpositions    or pointing out Trumps legal and ethical failings doesnt    come from a place of hate. It comes from a place of    truth.  <\/p>\n<p>    Most peopledon't criticize Donald Trump because they hate    him, obviously excluding the contractors he repeatedly ripped    offand women who have accused him of sexual    assault,its because they love America and seriously    fear what he seems intent on doing to it, and for that matter    the rest of the world.  <\/p>\n<p>    But now, after lastweeks shooting we have Congressional    Republicans complaining that their constituents have come up to    them and angrily said that theyre trying to get people killed    [by repealing the ACA.] They argue thats not fair, and thats    just so so mean.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yeah, well, math, facts and commonsense show that between 25,000-36,000 people per year will    likely die if the ACA is repealed without a viable replacement:  <\/p>\n<p>      Uninsured adults are at least 25 percent more likely to      die prematurely than adults who have private insurance. See      state-level breakdowns of the 26,100 people      between the ages of 25 and 64 who died prematurely due to a      lack of health insurance in 2010.    <\/p>\n<p>      Nearly 36,000 people could die every year,      year after year, if the incoming president signs legislation      repealing the Affordable Care Act.    <\/p>\n<p>      This figure is based on new data from the Urban Institute      examining how many people will become uninsured if the      law is repealed, as well as a study of mortality rates both before and      after the state of Massachusetts enacted health reforms      similar to Obamacare.    <\/p>\n<p>    So when people say this, they arent    beingmean,theyre being factual. This is    not hate speech, thisis criticism. Fact-based criticism.      <\/p>\n<p>    Civility is generally a good thing. But something I    thinkbeing more civil isnt whats really being asked    here. Yes, of course, we should focus and be critical of    theissues and, where reasonable, refrain from demonizing    any particular faction or group. But IMO thats not what these    Republicans are asking for.Whats being asked isfor    liberals to simplyshut up, and then all will be    well.  <\/p>\n<p>    I dont speak for anyone but myself, but I can pretty much    guarantee thats. not. gonna. happen.  <\/p>\n<p>    After the many previous mass shootings that have plagued the    nation, the complaint from the right has typically beenNow is    not the time to make things politicalwhen people mention that    perhaps the reason so many people are getting killed by guns,    might have something to do with the prevalence of guns    themselves. In response, theyve often argued that this    critiqueis an attack on everyones SecondAmendment    Rights. Asking for trigger locks is too much. Asking for    comprehensive background checks is too much. Our rights are    clearly more important than the lives lost.  <\/p>\n<p>    It doesnt matter that America averages 33,000 deaths per year as a result of    firearms.It doesnt matter that over 60% of those deathsare suicides by people    who are perfectly legal gun owners, not criminals, not    gangbangers, not terrorists. Itdoesn't matter that the    Alexandria shooting was the 154th mass shooting so far this year, and    not even the only mass shooting to occur that    same day.It doesnt matter that this particular    shooter was a legal gun owner, who had a history of violence against women and    perhaps that has as much do with his final actions as anything    specifically political. We maynever really going to know    for sure what his motivations truly were.  <\/p>\n<p>    But none of that matters because we have to protect our    rights, damnit.   <\/p>\n<p>    Now were told that the real problem isnt that we have    more guns in the nation than we have    people, its because some people have the nerve to use    their First Amendment rights totalk too much and    that theyare just too vulgar.  <\/p>\n<p>      Talking with Fox News, Gingrich pointed fingers at left-wing      hysteria that he says has exploded ever since President      Donald Trumps election last fall, as evidenced by Kathy      Griffins latest stunt in which she held up a likeness of      Trumps severed head.    <\/p>\n<p>      The intensity on the left is very real, Gingrich      said. Whether its a so-called comedian holding up the      presidents head in blood, or its right here, in New York      City, a play that shows the president being assassinated. Or      its Democratic leading national politicians who are so angry      they have to use vulgarity because they cant find any common      language.    <\/p>\n<p>    Right, so Kathy Griffins joke-failwiththe fake    Trump head that hadblood coming out of his    wherever and Senator Gillibrand dropping anF-Bomb    is why a guygrabbed a gun and went after Republicans?  <\/p>\n<p>    Remind me exactly who was it that invited Ted Nugentwho once    said Hillary Clinton was a Worthless    BitchandBarack Obama was a piece of shit and that    heand Eric Holder needed their heads chopped off and Hillary Clinton    should be hangedto the White House for dinner again?  <\/p>\n<p>    Then again, maybe its all the fault of Shakespeare?  <\/p>\n<p>      [Don] Trump Jr. retweeted a report about those witness claims,      and he also approved another tweet by a conservative      commentator linking the shootings to a recent production of Shakespeares      Julius Caesar that depicted the presidents      assassination.    <\/p>\n<p>    Because its not like somebodythought to do the same    thing, a modern day version of Julius Ceasar including    the assassination of the head of state, when Obama was    president.   <\/p>\n<p>    Except that they did in 2012.  <\/p>\n<p>      While Delta Air Lines and Bank of America have       dropped their sponsorships of New Yorks Public Theater      over a President Trump-inspired staging of Shakespeares      Julius Caesar, corporate sponsors at the Guthrie Theater      had no public reaction to a 2012 staging that featured a      black actor in the role of Caesar.    <\/p>\n<p>      Caesar is stabbed to death in the middle of the play.    <\/p>\n<p>    I am a person that believes that hateful rhetoric can sometimes    inspirenegative outcomes, so Im not ignoring the    center of their concern.But I do think theres a    difference between strong rhetoric and violently dangerous    hateful rhetoric. Theres a difference between strong speech    built on facts and hate speech built on lies, and I have my    doubts that many ofthe Republicans really know that    difference at all.Theyre just using this tragedy as an    opportunity to attack the First Amendment rights of those they    oppose while taking no responsibility of their own.  <\/p>\n<p>    For example, there was the time this guy showed up a pizza    parlor because someone was promoting a totallyfalse story that Hillary Clinton    and John Podestawerelinked to a child prostitution    ring. And Imnot just saying he was there    because of thatstory.He said he was there with a gun    because of that story.  <\/p>\n<p>      A North Carolina man was arrested Sunday after he      walked into a popular pizza restaurant in Northwest      Washington carrying an assault rifle and fired one or more      shots, D.C. police said. The man told police he had come to      the restaurant to self-investigate a false election-related      conspiracy theory involving Hillary Clinton that spread      online during her presidential campaign.    <\/p>\n<p>    I for one do not recall Republicans criticizing the deliberate    spreading of this false story and finding fault with the media    outlets that pushed it without having a shred of    proof.But now, today we have this:  <\/p>\n<p>      Fox News anchor Melissa Francis then played a clip from      Rep. Rodney Davis (R-IL) who said some of his best friends      are Democrats and that the House passes a lot of bipartisan      legislation, but its the major issues that lead to      political discourse that has in my opinion, led to such an      uptick in just hateful, hateful rhetoric of all sides, and I      stand here today and say stop. We have to stop.    <\/p>\n<p>        BERGMAN: I agree with Rodney wholeheartedly in that the        hateful rhetoric serves no positive purpose. In fact, today        it served a negative purpose. But unfortunately,        and Im looking at all the media in the eye when I say        this: friendships and cordial relationships dont make good        news. So I can tell you, especially as the        president of the freshman class of Republicans, we are        united along with our Democratic freshman counterparts to        bring civility back to the 115th Congress.      <\/p>\n<p>        FRANCIS: So you think its the medias fault?      <\/p>\n<p>        BERGMAN: I think the media is        complicit if they keep inciting, as opposed to        informing.      <\/p>\n<p>    The media areinciting instead of informing? You mean    inciting like telling people what the CBO score for Trumpcare    is?Yeah, okay.  <\/p>\n<p>    I just have to say Im skeptical of Republicans who claim they    really want to stop all the hateful, hateful rhetoric on all    sides.Its not like we heard all this Kumbahyah    talk when it was suggested that somebody may have    helpedincite violence against dozens of congressional    offices by using a map placing targets on their districtsI    didnt hear Republicans saying people shouldnt do that.  <\/p>\n<p>    Gabrielle GIffords is who said it.  <\/p>\n<p>      On April 23, 2010, an angry phone call came into a      congressmans office in Tucson, Arizona. The voice on the      line was a male, on the young side, brimming with fury over      immigration. The caller announced he was going to come down      there and blow the brains out of the congressman and his      staff, an aide later recalled. Then the caller said he would      do the same to Mexicans crossing the border. Minutes later,      police evacuated the offices of Rep. Ral Grijalva, a Tucson      Democrat whose congressional district sits immediately to the      west of Gabrielle Giffords. [...]    <\/p>\n<p>      As several media outlets       reported, the door to Giffords Tucson      congressional office was vandalized last March after her vote      in favor of the health-care bill. But the event that      ratcheted up the violent chatter was the April signing of      Senate Bill 1070, an Arizona law that gave local police broad      powers to discover illegal immigrants.    <\/p>\n<p>    As shown by the above video, it was Gabriel Giffords herself    who brought up the issue of the crosshairs map before she was    ultimately shot in head, and fiveothers persons were    killed, by a crazed shooter in Tucson later that year.  <\/p>\n<p>    But rather than denounce rhetoric that actually did    promoteviolence and vandalismat the time, instead    what we heard back then was Blood Libel.An    argument based on the ideathat Giffordsherself    pointingout the incitement, was itself asource    of the incitement.  <\/p>\n<p>    To his credit Rep. Steve Scalise himself had much better things    to say about Giffords than Palin did.  <\/p>\n<p>    Still as a result of all this, I dont take these fresh    newplatitudes all that seriously. I reallydont    think theyre sincere because there have been plenty of chances    for that sincerity to be shown, and repeatedly they have    failed.  <\/p>\n<p>    We didnt hearthis call for civility and unity from    the GOPafter Sandy Hook which Trump-pal Alex Jones    says was a false flag and Paul Ryan said Obama was only    talking about it to distract from his failed    policies,not after the Holocaust Museum Shooter who was    planning to target David Axelrod, or the Knoxville Unitarian Church    Shooter,which was an attack on liberals    inspired by a book from a frequent OReilly guest, or Dylann    Roofs murder spree in Charleston in    reaction to the trial of George Zimmerman and right-wing    rhetoric about excessive black violencepushed by the CCC    and oftenshown on Bill OReillysprogram, or the    attempted attack on the Oakland ACLU and Tides Foundation    inspired by the overblownrhetoric of Glenn Beck    about those organizations, or the Las Vegas cop killers who were from    the Bundy compoundand said they wanted to spark a    revolution against the government, orthe attack on Planned Parenthood inspired    a by phony video by right-wing anti-abortion activists, or    the Alt-Reich Nation killer who knifed    ROTC Cadet Lt. Richard Collins to death earlier this year, or    the Sikh Temple shooter who mistakenly    thought the worshiperswere Muslim, or last months    terrorist in Portland who killed two bystanders    with a knife after harassing a pair of Muslim girls,    or the more1,000 Hate crimes that sparked up immediately    after Trumps election.   <\/p>\n<p>    Im not holding my breath that things are suddenly gonna    get all unity-like because Rep. Scalise was shot in the    hip.Hopefully, he and all the rest    recoversafely.But Im terribly sorry I    just cant take empty meaningless platitudes like    thisseriously.      <\/p>\n<p>    Or this.  <\/p>\n<p>    To which I say...  <\/p>\n<p>    Sure Im a skeptic, but Im not a cynic. Im not saying theres    absolutely no hope.If the GOP can take responsibility and    apologize for their ownparticipation in this escalating    rhetoricthe way that Kathy Griffin apologized within hoursI    just might believe them. Maybe.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincere about harsh rhetoric    if it had came up when Trump was saying \"KNOCK THE    CRAPOUT OF THEM!\" tohis rally crowds.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincere aboutharsh    rhetoric if it came up when Trump was saying \"I'll pay for your    lawyers fees\" to beat protesters.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoricif it came up when Trump said 3-5 million illegal    votes were cast against him.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincere about harsh    rhetoric if they didn't lie about \"Voter Fraud\"    while gerrymandering and suppressing the Democraticand    minorityvote.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoricif it came up when Trump said Judge Curiel was    too racist a Mexican to make a fair decision.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincere about harsh rhetoric    if it came up when Trump said Gold Star Father Khazir Khan was    allied with ISIS.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoricif it came up when Trump said Mexicans were    rapists, killers and criminals. And some, a few, were good    people.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoric if it they had ever said the same thing to    #AltRightbigoted    so-called free speech championtrolls like    Miloor Richard Spencer.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoricif it they ever recognized a terrorist when he's    a white guy andhis victims are liberal, black or    Muslim.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoric if, when Russia wageda CyberWar    against America, they wouldnt stick their heads in the sand or    else#BlameObama    for something he once said to Medvedev.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoric if they didn't call the findings of all    17 intelligence agencies and the investigation of18    different mysterious contacts with Russians a \"witch    hunt.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoric if people likeJason Miller werent    calling Senator Kamala Harris \"hysterical\" for asking Jeff Sessionstough    questions.  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincereabout harsh    rhetoric if it came up when Eric Trump was saying    his fathers critics were\"not even people.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    I might believe the GOP was sincere about harsh    rhetoricif so many of them hadntsaid Barack Obama    was an illegal alien with a falsified birth    certificate, anillegitimate president, a secret Muslim, an Arab,the anti-Christ, a communist, a socialist,    a liar, a criminal, a drug dealer, a welfare thug-in-chief, a food-stampPresident, was    incompetent, was the founder ofISIS,a fraud,    aradical black liberation theology Kenyan Mau Mau revolutionist anti-colonial    who simply wasnt smart enough to get into    Harvard or become editor of theHarvard Law    Review without affirmative action, who neededBill Ayers to ghost-writehis    own best-selling book about his own life and    fatherbecause hereallyhated America and    all it stood forandwhen they werefeeling    boldwas really justanother lazynigger.  <\/p>\n<p>    But none of that has happened. Not yet. We havent heard an    apology for any of it either. Im not expecting we will.  <\/p>\n<p>    As a result I have no intention of backing off the Republicans    or Trumpwith what I have to say about them or their    policies one iota.I will not be giving them an inch. The    state of my dangerously factual liberal rhetoric will remain    strong, and it will remain loud.  <\/p>\n<p>    And to be honest, I lied, Im not sorry about it at all. Not    even slightly.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See original here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2017\/6\/18\/1672035\/-The-state-of-my-dangerous-liberal-rhetoric-will-remain-strong-and-loud\" title=\"The state of my dangerous liberal rhetoric will remain strong and loud - Daily Kos\">The state of my dangerous liberal rhetoric will remain strong and loud - Daily Kos<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> First of all, its not like this is really a new argument theGOP has decided to put forward following this shooting.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/liberal\/the-state-of-my-dangerous-liberal-rhetoric-will-remain-strong-and-loud-daily-kos.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[431665],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-220865","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liberal"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/220865"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=220865"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/220865\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=220865"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=220865"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=220865"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}