{"id":218559,"date":"2017-06-11T15:47:04","date_gmt":"2017-06-11T19:47:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/when-worlds-collude-hoppe-bruenig-and-their-shared-vision-of-the-libertarian-future-ii-nolan-chart-llc.php"},"modified":"2017-06-11T15:47:04","modified_gmt":"2017-06-11T19:47:04","slug":"when-worlds-collude-hoppe-bruenig-and-their-shared-vision-of-the-libertarian-future-ii-nolan-chart-llc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/libertarian\/when-worlds-collude-hoppe-bruenig-and-their-shared-vision-of-the-libertarian-future-ii-nolan-chart-llc.php","title":{"rendered":"When Worlds Collude: Hoppe, Bruenig, and their shared vision of the libertarian future (II) &#8211; Nolan Chart LLC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Paleolibertarian economist Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and    progressive lawyer and internet troll Matt Bruenig, would    appear to have little in common; yet they both have the same    idea of what a libertarian world would look like.  <\/p>\n<p>    In this two-part article (Part    I is here), I argue that(1) the very idea of    libertarianism that Bruenig claimslibertarians should be    following (2) is not only compatible with, but looks like it    would result in,Hoppes theorized libertarian society of    the future; furthermore, while (3) Hoppes account of    that societysuffers from serious flaws and errors, (4)    Bruenigs account of that future society, being almost    identical to Hoppes, has the same flaws and errors.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hoppes vision of what a libertarian world of proprietary    communities would look like seemsriddled with false    assumptions. Let us examine a few:  <\/p>\n<p>    (1) the restoration of private property rights and    laissez-faire economics implies a sharp and drastic increase in    social discrimination and will swiftly eliminate most if not    all of the multi-cultural-egalitarian life style    experiments.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    No; there is no reason discrimination would increase sharply or    drastically. Some property owners might discriminate on this or    that grounds, but there is no reason to think that everyone    would: no reason to think that any original community would    stop people of different races, religions, or sexual    orientations, from living together in it. Nor is there any    reason for a community to prohibit life style experiments,    from same-sex marriage to rock n roll or hip-hop to marijuana    use. Proprietary communities would be established for one    reason only  to protect the residents property rights, and    with it the division of labor  not for any of this other    stuff.  <\/p>\n<p>    (2) towns and villages could and would do what they did as a    matter of course until well into the nineteenth century in    Europe and the United States: to post signs regarding entrance    requirements to the town, and once in town for entering    specific pieces of property (no beggars,bums, or    homeless, but also no Moslems, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, etc.);    to expel as trespassersthose who do not fulfill these    requirements.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    Yes, they could; but no, they probably would not. Why would any    town or village in 21st-century America do, or even care about,    what towns and villages did in 19th-century Europe? In todays    America, Moslems, Hindus, Jews (both Sephardic and Ashkenazi),    and Catholics (both Hispanic andHibernian) live and own    property in existing small towns and villages all over the    country. Whyin the world would they agree to a community    covenant whereby they immediately had their realproperty    seized and were expelled?  <\/p>\n<p>    If Hoppe wanted to live in a community with such rules, he    would be free to join with other grumpy old white men, leave,    and found his own community somewhere; but he would have no    power in any existing community to impose such rules on others.  <\/p>\n<p>    (3) They [these confused libertarians] fantasized of a society    where every one would be free to choose and cultivate whatever    nonaggressive lifestyle, career, or character he wanted, and    where, as a result of free-market economics, everyone could do    so on an elevated level of    generalprosperity.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    Why not? The only necessary criterion, for allowing someone to    live in a libertarian proprietary community, would be whether    or not his behavior was nonaggressive (in the standard    libertarian sense). Communities might also require residents to    be productive  to support themselves by labor and exchange     but even this would not be a necessity: communities could well    have consensual welfare arrangements to take care of the old,    the sick, the orphaned, et al. There is no reason for anyone to    care about other citizens lifestyle, career, or even    character, beyond the requirements of standard    libertariannonaggression.  <\/p>\n<p>    (4) every neighborhood would be described, and its risk    assessed, in terms of a multitude of crime indicators, such as    the composition of the inhabitants sexes, age groups,    races,nationalities, ethnicities, religions, languages,    professions, and incomes. [] insurers would be interested in     excluding those whose presence leads to a higher risk and lower    property values.. That is, rather than eliminating    discrimination, insurers would rationalize and perfect its    practice.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    No. First, there is no reason nationwide or even statewide    insurance companies would exist without the state. Second, even    if they did, there is no reason to think they would want to    replace their present-day actuarial methods with the ones Hoppe    imagines. Third, even if somedid that, there is no reason    to think community residents would want to deal with them.    Theriskiest group is young people 16-24, who consistently    have the highest violent crime rates; buthow many    communities would agree to expel everyone in that age group?  <\/p>\n<p>    (5) There can be no tolerance towards democrats and communists    in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically    separated and expelled from society. Likewise  the advocates    of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as,    for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism,    nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism  will    have to bephysically removed from society too, if one is    to maintain a libertarian order.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    No. The idea of expelling not just communists and    parasites, but gays, hedonists,    environmentalists, and even advocates of democracy is as silly    as that of expelling all of the Hispanics and Irish. Would    Hoppe be in favor of expelling someone who said things like the    following?  <\/p>\n<p>    For the sake of domestic peace, liberalism aims at democratic    government. Democracy is therefore not a revolutionary    institution. On the contrary it is the very means of preventing    revolutions and civil wars. It provides a peaceful adjustment    of government to the will of the majority.[11]  <\/p>\n<p>    If so, Hoppe would be in favor of expelling Ludwig von Mises.  <\/p>\n<p>    How does Hoppe reach such strange and erroneous conclusions?    Only by imagining that what he would do, if free of government    coercion, to be the same as what everyone would do if freed    from government coercion. How he manages to conflate those two    different things seems to rest on onemore error that he    makes:  <\/p>\n<p>    (6) In a covenant concluded among proprietor and community    tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property,    no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not    even to unlimited speech on ones own    tenant-property.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    No, again. While communities with only one proprietor could    conceivably exist, why would they? The first proprietary    communities would be already existing communities with prior    private property ownership, and they would be established    specifically to defend that property. Why would their first act    be to give up all their real property, along with their privacy    and all otherownership rights, to someone else, even    someone so eminent as a professor of economics from Nevada?  <\/p>\n<p>    Rousseau believed that a social contract requires the total    alienation of each associate, together with all his    rights,to the whole community.[12]    Hoppe thinks they should be alienated to some sort of feudal    lord instead. But there is no reason for the members of a    proprietarycommunity to alienate any of their rights.    Since, as Hoppe notes, the very purpose of the covenant    [is]preserving and protecting private property, one    would expect them to hang onto not only theirown real    property, but as many rights to it as they could.  <\/p>\n<p>    Since Bruenigs account of the libertarian future follows that    of Hoppe, one would expect it to reflect all of Hoppes faults    and errors. And indeed one would be correct.  <\/p>\n<p>    One point needs emphasis. Bruenig considers Hoppe one of my    favorite thinkers,[13] not because he has    learned anything from Hoppe, but solely because of confirmation    bias; because Hoppes views of libertarianism match Bruenigs    own, already set views:  <\/p>\n<p>    Whats interesting about Hoppe to me is that he sees exactly    the things every critic of libertarianism sees. He sees that,    in fact, totally unfettered private control over the resources    of the world would be a brutal existence (if an existence at    all) for the vast majorty ofpeople. Instead of denying    these things are true (as many try to), he says they are    absolutelytrue, and that constructing this private    tyranny is precisely the point of    libertarianism.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    So, while sometimes Bruenig hides his opinions of    libertarianism behind phrases like according to Hoppe, those    instances can be dismissed as mere semantic games. Bruenig is    not merely describing Hoppes opinions, but also claiming that    those opinions are fact and truth (or, in other words,    Bruenigs opinions).  <\/p>\n<p>    With that out of the way, one can turn to evaluating Bruenigs    opinion of the libertarian future:  <\/p>\n<p>    (1) a libertarian world is one in which we all basically live    in these private gated communities that are generally managed    by big landowners and their insurance companies (the insurance    company is also the private police, by the way). The whole    world will get chopped into what amount to gated communities,    and insurance companies will decide who can live in them and    who cant by    looking at things like race, gender, class, age, and so    on.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    No. While gated communities would probably exist in a    libertarian world (and almost certainly would exist in    Bruenigs Grab World), there is no reason to think the whole    world will be chopped into them and that everyone would live    in them. Neither is there any reason, or much    likelihood,that insurance companies would be the ones    to decide who lives in them. There is none at all tothink    those companieswould become the police. Insurance    companies are based on a profitable business model. An    insurance company could see further opportunities for profit by    getting into the police business; but so could any other    company or entrepreneur.  <\/p>\n<p>    Not only are most of Bruenigs assumptions here unlikely; two    of them  that we all will live in his gated communities, and    that simultaneously his insurance companies will be deciding    that a huge number of people cant live in them  are also    contradictory.  <\/p>\n<p>    (2) [Insurance companies] biggest function will be to    discriminate against people, and keep people of color, poor    people, religious minorities, and so on from the good and    civilized people.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    As noted, it is impossible both that everyone will live in    Bruenigs gated communities and that many if not most people    will be kept from living in them. To be charitable, Bruenig    might be interpreted to mean (even though he doesnt say) that    there will be separate gated communities catering to people of    one color, one economic group, one religious minority, and so    on. Theremight, but that would depend both on the    strength of peoples prejudices, and on how much they    value their prejudices over other things. One would expect both    to be low in most communities, simply due to the fact that    people with strong prejudices could go off and live in    communities of their own.  <\/p>\n<p>    (3) you cant be gay, polyamorous, a bum, or Jewish in this    libertarian utopia.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    Why not? A person building and selling homes in a community    would likely sell none to bums (if by that Bruenig means    people with no money to buy them), but why would they refuse to    sell them to the rest of Bruenigs list? How would they even    know a persons religion or sexual partners without extensive    and expensive background checks; and why would they take on    that expense just to limit their customers? As noted,    people who did care about those things could ghettoize into    non-gay or non-Jewish communities, but that would simply lower    anti-gay and anti-Jewish prejudice in thecommunities they    left.  <\/p>\n<p>    Besides, as Walter Block points out, suppose that the town or    village passed a law prohibiting the entry of a bum, a Jew, or    a Christian into the town, but that one of the local property    owners wanted to invite such a person into his house or store.    Then, for the town council to forbid this access would be a    violation of private property rights.[15]    Similarly, if a builderwanted to sell to a gay or a Jew,    for a community government to forbid that would    actuallyviolate property rights. Remember that the    purpose of these communities would be defend property rights,    not to violate them.  <\/p>\n<p>    (4) in a world of a true lock down on private property, with    no regulation on how such property might be used, there would    be unbelievable amounts of social coercion to prevent people    fromliving the lives theyd like.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    This claim of Bruenigs looks positively bizarre. In standard    libertarian theory, private property in homes is important    precisely because it allows people to    live the lives theyd like on their own property. But not in    Bruenigs version; as he sees it, the government in the future    libertarian world will not and cannot tolerate people    chattering about democratic governance and other evil    things[1] in their own homes, any more than    it will tolerate their having sex with whom they like in their    own homes. And that is by no means all that a government will    forbid; government intolerance would extend to vulgarity,    obscenity, profanity, drug use, promiscuity, pornography,    prostitution, homosexuality, polygamy, pedophilia    or any other conceivable perversity or    abnormality.[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    It is bad enough that Bruenig sees this sort of government    regulation of private property as no regulation, and worse    that he calls it libertarian. But it gets even worse when one    considers how such regulations could possibly be enforced. How    could a community government knowwhether property owners    are entertaining forbidden guests, taking forbidden drugs,    having forbidden sex, practicing forbidden religions, listening    to forbidden music, reading forbidden books, or saying    forbidden things in their homes? Only by having the power to    enter and search their homes at any time, and the power to    monitor all their conversations.  <\/p>\n<p>    Not only would Bruenigs libertarianism dispense with freedom    of speech and religion, but also the security of person or    property against unwarranted searches, surveillance, and    seizures  <\/p>\n<p>    (5) But thats not all. What happens if Bruenig-style    libertarian governments find a property owner doing any of    those forbidden things? Why, then They will violently exile    such people.[1] And again: If you make    statements against Hoppes politics, are a nature lover, or are    gay [oranything else on Bruenigs lists]  you will    be expelled from society. [1; stress    inoriginal].  <\/p>\n<p>    Not only do Bruenigs libertarian governments have the power    to regulate what people do on their own property; not only do    they have the power to search and surveil property owners    without the owners consent; they also have the power to throw    property owners out of their own homes and expropriate the    homes.  <\/p>\n<p>    To sum up: In Hoppes account of the libertarian world (and    also Bruenigs, as he calls Hoppes the true account),    individuals would have few if any rights, including few if any    property rights. How did the two of them come to reach such    bizarre conclusions? Why do they think that an ideology based    on individual rights would turn around and practise the exact    opposite? There seem to be two reasons, both based on    confusion.  <\/p>\n<p>    The first confusion seems to lie in Bruenigs use of the term    the libertarian utopia to describe Hoppes preferred    community organization. Both Hoppe and Bruenig assume that, in    their postulated libertarian world, all the communities will be    the same: that members will have the same beliefs, tastes, and    preferences, and those norms will be what every community    government enforces. Perhaps it is understandable that Hoppe    conflates his own preferred norms with those of    every libertarian, indeed of every property owner. It is less    understandable that Bruenig does the same thing, considering    that those do not seem to be his preferred norms; his motive    appears to be only to caricature libertarian ideas. In any    case, this looks like simple confusion.  <\/p>\n<p>    Robert Nozick (whom Bruenig claims to have read) points out    that, in a libertarian society individual communities can have    any character compatible with the operation of the    framework.[15, 325] Byframwork he    means the background law governing relations between    communities, protectingpeoples right to leave    communities, and the like. As Nozick sees it, the framework    isequivalent to the minimal state.[15,    333] In contrast, within that framework, individual    communities will not correspond to any one form of organization    or set of rules: There will notbe one kind of community    existing and one kind of life led in utopia. Utopia will    consist ofutopias, of many different and divergent    communities in which people lead different kinds oflives    under different institutions.[15, 311-312]  <\/p>\n<p>    The second confusion seems to lie in their account of private    property. While both describe thesituation in these    communities as being based on private property, both assume a    state ofaffairs in which private property does not exist.    In Hoppean communities, all property is owned by its    ruler(whom Hoppe actually calls the proprietor). He may    assign property to individuals, and even tell them that    hiscommunity covenant is for the protection of their    privateproperty, but this is merely a bait-and-switch.    In fact they remain mere tenants, and theirhomes and    land merely tenant-property.[1] Real    ownership is always held by the ruler.  <\/p>\n<p>    In this case, Bruenigs confusion (given his ideological    prefrence for state property) is themore understandable;    he appears to sincerely believe that all property is given (or    should begiven) by the government, and is (or should be)    owned only by permission of the government. Hoppe , on the    other hand, seems motivated only by narcissism; since he wants    property owners to dowhat and only what he would do, he    imagines himself the sole proprietor. But whatever the reason,    the idea of a government that lets people alone to live the way    they would like to live is    incomprehensible to both of them. Both seem unable to imagine    that rational people might have different preferences from    them.  <\/p>\n<p>    As strange as their beliefs are, a free society could still    accommodate both of them: it would leave Hoppe free to set up    his racist community and Bruenig to set up his socialist    community. However, it would also leave others free to reject    their two communties, and limit their communities success to    their ability to persuade others rather than forcing them.    Which explains why both, in their own way, reject theidea    of a free society.  <\/p>\n<p>    [1] Matt Bruenig, Hans-Hermann Hoppe,    Libertarian Extraordinaire, Demos, September 11,    2013.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.demos.org\/blog\/9\/11\/13\/hans-hermann-hoppe-libertarian-extraordinaire\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.demos.org\/blog\/9\/11\/13\/hans-hermann-hoppe-libertarian-extraordinaire<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [11] Ludwig von Mises, Human Action.    New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1949, 150. Print.  <\/p>\n<p>    [12] Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social    Contract (translated by Jonathan Bennett), Early    ModernTexts, December, 2010. Web, Jan. 12,    2017.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/rousseau1762.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/rousseau1762.pdf<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [13] Matt Bruenig, Hans-Hermann Hoppe,    Libertarian Theoretical Historian, Demos, December    31,2014. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.demos.org\/blog\/12\/31\/14\/hans-hermann-hoppe-libertarian-theoretical-historian\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.demos.org\/blog\/12\/31\/14\/hans-hermann-hoppe-libertarian-theoretical-historian<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [14] Walter Block, Plumbline Libertarianism:    A critique of Hoppe, Reason Papers 29, 161.<a href=\"https:\/\/reasonpapers.com\/pdf\/29\/rp_29_10.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/reasonpapers.com\/pdf\/29\/rp_29_10.pdf<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [15] Robert Nozick, Anarchy, State, and    Utopia. New York: Basic Books, 1974. 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In this two-part article (Part I is here), I argue that(1) the very idea of libertarianism that Bruenig claimslibertarians should be following (2) is not only compatible with, but looks like it would result in,Hoppes theorized libertarian society of the future; furthermore, while (3) Hoppes account of that societysuffers from serious flaws and errors, (4) Bruenigs account of that future society, being almost identical to Hoppes, has the same flaws and errors.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/libertarian\/when-worlds-collude-hoppe-bruenig-and-their-shared-vision-of-the-libertarian-future-ii-nolan-chart-llc.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-218559","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-libertarian"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/218559"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=218559"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/218559\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=218559"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=218559"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=218559"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}