{"id":214856,"date":"2017-03-10T08:08:24","date_gmt":"2017-03-10T13:08:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/hawaii-v-trump-a-legal-nothing-burger-daily-caller.php"},"modified":"2017-03-10T08:08:24","modified_gmt":"2017-03-10T13:08:24","slug":"hawaii-v-trump-a-legal-nothing-burger-daily-caller","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/fifth-amendment\/hawaii-v-trump-a-legal-nothing-burger-daily-caller.php","title":{"rendered":"Hawaii V. Trump: A Legal Nothing-Burger &#8211; Daily Caller"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    5524836  <\/p>\n<p>    This replaced his order from January which was challenged in    courts everywhere. The    9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the January order should be    stayed indefinitely rendering the order unenforceable while in    litigation. The court got it wrong  completely.    Rather than fighting in the liberal 9th Circuitwhich    has a staggering 80% reversal rate  the second highest in the    nation the Administration issued a new more narrow    order andavoided the    confusing implementation of the January order.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now we are back in court  the 9th Circuit naturally. Thats    where the activist judges are.     72% of the judges in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals were    appointed by democrats.Hawaii along    withIsmail    Elshikh  Imam of the Muslim Association of    Hawaiisued to block the revised order. The 38 page    lawsuit is assigned to US District JudgeDerrick    Watson  a 2013 appointee of former President Obama.    It was no accident it was brought in Hawaiiwhere    two of the three federal judges are Obama appointees.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lets discuss Hawaiis verbose-yet-meritless lawsuit. Theres    29 pages of policy arguments  not legal ones.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its a litany of reasons why Hawaii and the Imam think the    order is a big scary monster thats embarrassing and keeps the    Imams Syrian mother-in-law from visiting even though she    hasnt come to visit since 2005.Theres only 7 pages of legal    claims. Lets look at the 29 pages of irrelevant material    first. They lay out some policy    reasonswhy the executive order, they say, isnt    a good idea.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lead counsel is Neal Katyal  former Solicitor General of the    US.Professor    Katyal is a brilliant lawyer whom I have met several times and    is as nice a guy as you could ever meet.Reasonable    minds can disagree and we disagree.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 1-2. Hawaiians cant receive visits from or be reunited    with people affected by the order. Universities cant recruit    as well. The Imam has to live in a country where people think    the government disfavors a religion. The order hurts Hawaiis    economy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Response: Theres no constitutional right to receive visits    from foreigners. Those words arent in the Constitution. So    what if universities cant recruit from 6 nations for a while.    National security is more important. What would a terrorist    attack do to recruiting? If the Imam thinks the government has    established a disfavored religion hes entitled to his opinion    but this order affects ANYONE of any religion from a mere six    nations. Muslims from every other country remain unaffected by    the order.     The Hawaiian economy is booming and its speculative at best to    think a handful of affected people will change that.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 7-10. These are campaign speeches and other cherry-picked    remarks where Trump advocated ideas about immigration and a    relationship between terrorism and immigration.  <\/p>\n<p>    Response: His campaign remarks arent relevant. He wasnt    President, the order doesnt mention Muslims and doesnt apply    to any single religion.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 11-15. These describe the January Order.  <\/p>\n<p>    Response: Thats irrelevant. This is a new order. We arent    litigating the first.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 16-19. These describe the rollout of the first order,    chaos at airports, and confusion in its implementation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Response: Its true that the rollout couldve been smoother    but this is a new order. We arent litigating the first.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 20-25. These quote and describe the new order.  <\/p>\n<p>    Response: Millers comments are irrelevant because the new    order didnt exist then. It doesnt matter what Miller says. It    matters what the order says.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 25-30. These rehash in more detail the initial claims.    The Imams mother-in-law cant visit, other residents cant    receive certain visitors, it makes people feel bad, it harms    the economy etc. This is a policydebate. If the    Imams mother-in-law cant visit Hawaii for now and her last    visit was in 2005 one wonders if this is a real or pretend    problem.  <\/p>\n<p>    Pages 31-37. The legal arguments. They    arelegallyincorrect for astonishingly simple    reasons:  <\/p>\n<p>    COUNT 1. First Amendment-Establishment Clause  <\/p>\n<p>    Hawaii and the Imam allege The Establishment Clause of the    First Amendment prohibits the Federal Government from    Officially preferring one religion over another. They also    allege the order has the effect of disfavoring Islam.  <\/p>\n<p>    Heres what the Constitution actually says: Congress    shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or    prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Ive given you both the    Establishment Clause AND the Free Exercise Clause. Read    them together.Executive orders are not acts of Congress.    Theres no language in the order that mentions Islam. The order    does disfavor unfettered entry into the US from the six nations    (temporarily)  regardless of religion. Muslims    fromaround the globe enter the US daily and will continue    to despite the order. The Establishment Clause claim    islaughable.  <\/p>\n<p>    COUNT 2: Fifth Amendment-Equal Protection  <\/p>\n<p>    Hawaii and the Imam allege The Due Process Clause of the Fifth    Amendment prohibits the FederalGovernment from denying    equal protection of the laws, including on the basis of    religion and\/or national origin, nationality, or alienage.  <\/p>\n<p>        The Fifth Amendmentdoes not mention the words Equal    Protection. Thats the Fourteenth Amendment. I agree that all    peoplewho have rightsunder the Constitution    are entitled to equalprotection. Thats simple. But    heres the big problem for the plaintiffs: Non-citizens outside    of the US have no constitutional rights    whatsoever.The    peopleto who have constitutional rights are the    people of the US or those present within the US. We dont    export US Constitutional Rights. Otherwise, the Navy Seals    wouldve needed a search warrant to enter Bin Ladens house.    There is no constitutional right that belongs to any alien to    enter the US. Permanent residents and visa holders have    statutory and otherpermissions.  <\/p>\n<p>    COUNT 3: Fifth AmendmentSubstantive Due Process  <\/p>\n<p>    Plaintiffs claim The right to international travel is covered    by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.  <\/p>\n<p>    Really? Letslook. No person shall be held to answer for    a capitalcrime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a    Grand Jury, nor shall any person be subject for the same    offence to be twice put in jeopardy nor shall be compelled in    any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be    deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of    law  <\/p>\n<p>    I dont see any mention of international travel there. Maybe    Hawaii has special reading glasses and can see it.  <\/p>\n<p>    COUNT 4: Fifth Amendment-Procedural Due Process  <\/p>\n<p>    Plaintiffs claim citizens may assert  liberty interests with    respect to noncitizen relatives who are deprived of due    process  <\/p>\n<p>    Wrong. It isnt possible to deprive someone of something they    dont already possess  due process rights.  <\/p>\n<p>    COUNT 5: Immigration and Nationality Act  <\/p>\n<p>    Plaintiffs claim the order exceeds the Presidents authority    under 8 U.S.C 1182(f) and 1185(a).  <\/p>\n<p>    Wrong.Article 1,    section 8, clause 4 gives plenary (absolute) power over    immigration to Congress. Congress has    delegated that authority broadly to the    President.Section 1182(f), states: Whenever the    President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of    aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the    interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for    such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of    all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or    nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any    restrictions he may deem to be appropriate  <\/p>\n<p>    Click    here to read 1185(a). It begins with Unless otherwise    ordered by the President .  <\/p>\n<p>    COUNT 6: Religious Freedom Restoration Act  <\/p>\n<p>    Who knew the left liked RFRA? They claim RFRA grants citizens    the right to welcome visitors from anywhere in the world. It    does not.  <\/p>\n<p>    Count 7: Substantive Violation of the Administrative Procedure    Act through Violations of the Constitution, Immigration and    Nationality Act, andArbitrary and Capricious Action  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats the run everything up the flagpole and see if someone    salutes approach. This fails for the same    reason:Non-citizensoutside the United States have    no US constitutional rights. Thats why we have borders and why    Article 1 specifically grants plenary power to the Federal    government over immigration.  <\/p>\n<p>    The line must be drawn somewhere and its at the border. We    know where it is. Thats where US constitutional rights    evaporate. This is common sense stuff that shouldnt stand a    chance in court. But its the 9th Circuit. If Hawaii wins it    will land in the full US Supreme Court and the 9th Circuit    should get reversed  again.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2017\/03\/09\/hawaii-v-trump-a-legal-nothing-burger\/\" title=\"Hawaii V. Trump: A Legal Nothing-Burger - Daily Caller\">Hawaii V. Trump: A Legal Nothing-Burger - Daily Caller<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> 5524836 This replaced his order from January which was challenged in courts everywhere. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the January order should be stayed indefinitely rendering the order unenforceable while in litigation. The court got it wrong completely.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/fifth-amendment\/hawaii-v-trump-a-legal-nothing-burger-daily-caller.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[261462],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-214856","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fifth-amendment"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214856"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=214856"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214856\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=214856"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=214856"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=214856"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}