{"id":213687,"date":"2017-03-07T05:41:38","date_gmt":"2017-03-07T10:41:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/star-clusters-discovery-could-upset-the-astronomical-applecart-phys-org.php"},"modified":"2017-03-07T05:41:38","modified_gmt":"2017-03-07T10:41:38","slug":"star-clusters-discovery-could-upset-the-astronomical-applecart-phys-org","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/astronomy\/star-clusters-discovery-could-upset-the-astronomical-applecart-phys-org.php","title":{"rendered":"Star clusters discovery could upset the astronomical applecart &#8211; Phys.Org"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>March 6, 2017          This vibrant image from NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope shows    the Large Magellanic Cloud, a satellite galaxy to our own Milky    Way galaxy. Credit: Credit: NASA\/JPL-Caltech\/M. Meixner (STScI)    & the SAGE Legacy Team.    <\/p>\n<p>      The discovery of young stars in old star clusters could send      scientists back to the drawing board for one of the      Universe's most common objects.    <\/p>\n<p>    Dr Bi-Qing For, from the International Centre for Radio    Astronomy Research in Perth, said our understanding of how    stars evolve is a cornerstone of astronomical science.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"There are a billion trillion stars in the Universe and we've    been observing and classifying those we can see for more than a    century,\" she said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Our models of stellar evolution are based on the assumption    that stars within star clusters formed from the same material at    roughly the same time.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    A star cluster is a group of stars that share a common origin    and are held together by gravity for some length of time.  <\/p>\n<p>    Because star clusters are assumed to contain stars of similar    age and composition researchers have used them as an    \"astronomical laboratory\" to understand how mass affects the    evolution of stars.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If this assumption turns out to be incorrect, as our findings    suggest, then these important models will need to be revisited    and revised,\" Dr For said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The discovery, published today in the Monthly Notices of the    Royal Astronomical Society, involves a study of star    clusters located in the Large Magellanic Cloud, a neighbouring    galaxy to the Milky Way.  <\/p>\n<p>    By cross-matching the locations of several thousand young stars    with the locations of stellar clusters, the researchers found 15    stellar candidates that were much younger than other stars    within the same cluster.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"The formation of these younger stars could have been fuelled    by gas entering the clusters from interstellar space,\" said    co-author Dr Kenji Bekki, also from the International Centre    for Radio Astronomy Research.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"But we eliminated this possibility using observations made by    radio telescopes to show that there was no correlation between    interstellar hydrogen gas and the location of the clusters we    were studying.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"We believe the younger stars have actually been created out of    the matter ejected from older stars as they die, which would    mean we have discovered multiple generations of stars belonging    to the same cluster.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Dr Bekki said the stars were currently too faint to see using    optical telescopes because of the dust that surrounds them.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"They have been observed using infrared wavelengths by orbiting    space telescopes Spitzer and Herschel, operated by NASA and the    European Space Agency,\" he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"An envelope of gas and dust surrounds these young stars but as    they become more massive and this shroud blows away, they will    become visible at optical wavelengths for powerful instruments    like the Hubble Space Telescope.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If we point Hubble at the clusters we've been studying, we    should be able to see both young and old stars and confirm once    and for all that star clusters can contain several generations    of stars.\"  <\/p>\n<p>     Explore further:        Image: Hubble admires a youthful globular star cluster  <\/p>\n<p>    More information: , OUP accepted manuscript, Monthly    Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society: Letters (2017).    DOI: 10.1093\/mnrasl\/slx015<\/p>\n<p>        Globular clusters offer some of the most spectacular sights        in the night sky. These ornate spheres contain hundreds of        thousands of stars, and reside in the outskirts of        galaxies. The Milky Way contains over 150 such clustersand        ...      <\/p>\n<p>        Located approximately 22,000 light-years away in the        constellation of Musca (The Fly), this tightly packed        collection of starsknown as a globular clustergoes by the        name of NGC 4833. This NASA\/ESA Hubble Space Telescope ...      <\/p>\n<p>        An astronomer from LJMU's Astrophysics Research Institute        has discovered a new family of stars in the core of the        Milky Way Galaxy which provides new insights into the early        stages of the Galaxy's formation.      <\/p>\n<p>        Messier 18 was discovered and catalogued in 1764 by Charles        Messierfor whom the Messier Objects are namedduring his        search for comet-like objects. It lies within the Milky        Way, approximately 4600 light-years away in ...      <\/p>\n<p>        (Phys.org)A team of Brazilian astronomers, led by Denilso        Camargo of the Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul in        Porto Alegre, has discovered seven new embedded clusters        located unusually far away from the Milky Way's ...      <\/p>\n<p>        This image, taken with the Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 on        board the NASA\/ESA Hubble Space Telescope, shows the        globular cluster Terzan 1. Lying around 20,000 light-years        from us in the constellation of Scorpius (The Scorpion),        ...      <\/p>\n<p>        The discovery of young stars in old star clusters could        send scientists back to the drawing board for one of the        Universe's most common objects.      <\/p>\n<p>        The nature of the dark matter which apparently makes up 80%        of the mass of the particles in the universe is still one        of the great unsolved mysteries of present day sciences.        The lack of experimental evidence, which could ...      <\/p>\n<p>        The scaffolding that holds the large-scale structure of the        universe constitutes galaxies, dark matter and gas (from        which stars are forming), organized in complex networks        known as the cosmic web. This network comprises ...      <\/p>\n<p>        Among the most striking features on the surface of Ceres        are the bright spots in the center of Occator crater which        stood out already as NASA's space probe Dawn approached the        dwarf planet. Scientists under the leadership ...      <\/p>\n<p>        European astronomers have recently studied the chemical        composition of the low-mass globular cluster designated NGC        6362. Their detailed analysis of chemical abundances for 17        elements in the cluster provides important insights ...      <\/p>\n<p>        Mars may have been a wetter place than previously thought,        according to research on simulated Martian meteorites        conducted, in part, at the Department of Energy's Lawrence        Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab).      <\/p>\n<p>      Adjust slider to filter visible comments by rank    <\/p>\n<p>    Display comments: newest first  <\/p>\n<p>    ^^^^And what has that pile of irrelevant fail got to do with    anything in the article?  <\/p>\n<p>      That the cluster stars actually form from ejections from the      core star. The metallicity will vary among the individual      stars, largely depending on their size and location within      the cluster. That the metallicity is largely dependent on the      internal growth rates of the star itself, as new matter      generated both therein each star and from the core is largely      non-metallic. And now intermediate core black holes found in      a cluster, as I had predicted.    <\/p>\n<p>      Gosh. Maniacs, Say it Ain't so!    <\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/phys.org\/<\/a>...ter.html    <\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/phys.org\/<\/a>...ars.html    <\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/phys.org\/<\/a>...ter.html    <\/p>\n<p>      <a href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/phys.org\/<\/a>...ter.html    <\/p>\n<p>      So if my analysis is so lame, what does that make yours??      Lamer??    <\/p>\n<p>      \"Recent studies have shown that an extended main-sequence      turn-off is a common feature among intermediate-age clusters      (13 Gyr) in the Magellanic Clouds. Multiple-generation star      formation and stellar rotation or interacting binaries have      been proposed to explain the feature.............    <\/p>\n<p>      The paper goes on:      \"These findings support for the multiple-generations scenario      as a plausible explanation for the extended main-sequence      turn-off.\"    <\/p>\n<p>      There is therefore no upset applecart, just another revision      of the list of possible explanations.    <\/p>\n<p>      Interestingly, the same phenomenon has been observed in      globular clusters in the Milky Way. ( see <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/arxiv.org<\/a>...6526.pdf , and references      therein).    <\/p>\n<p>    @Tuxford,    Nope. Just read the paper, and it says nothing about stars    being formed from material ejected from other stars in the    cluster.  <\/p>\n<p>      You call this rational?: <a href=\"http:\/\/etheric.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/etheric.com\/<\/a>    <\/p>\n<p>      Lol.    <\/p>\n<p>      Apology owed to Tuxford? \ud83d\ude42    <\/p>\n<p>      Err, no. read LaViolette's model, as outlined by Tuxford's      comments in the articles he highlighted in his OP. It bears      no resemblance to what is being discussed in this article.      This is just regular star formation from gas clouds expelled      in supernovae a long time ago.    <\/p>\n<p>      \"Our finding also suggests that the gas supply for      second-generation star formation cannot originate from young      massive stars but must be from old AGB stars.\"    <\/p>\n<p>      Admittedly, my phraseology was a bit crap, but there is      nothing in this as regards LaViolette's nonsense:      <a href=\"http:\/\/etheric.co\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/etheric.co<\/a>...onomy\/2\/    <\/p>\n<p>      To paraphrase a poster elsewhere, \"LaViolette started off      quite promisingly, but then became insane.\"    <\/p>\n<p>    I would define this as fusion. Older stars within a vast amount    of material, not quite an elliptical galaxy, where there exist    multiple pockets of charge and charge clusters, i.e. elements,    in free frall. Thus the force causing fusion is the    \"gravitational\" force, which can be defined from the charge    distribution, an attractive force since charge will always    comply, like charge more distant and unlike charges move closer    together, So one can see the rotations and revolving elements    that will create matter, or be consumed by a star. Not the    other scenario. Ejections are varied.  <\/p>\n<p>      Science is too limited for solving this puzzle, being locked      inside a hall of intellectual mirrors, when the solution      actually lies outside the hall. Dumb and dumber      congratulating each other inside the hall. Lost. Not even      blatant contrary observations can shake them from their      mania. They must defend their world-view. Their sense of      sanity is challenged. And so they lash out, like davy here.    <\/p>\n<p>      The issue was your bald assertion to Tuxford and insulting      his reading comprehension. Your assertion was demonstrated      false by the facts as written in Dr For's Letter itself. Why      not be a big man and just apologize for THAT alone? The rest      of your disagreements are irrelevant to THAT particular      issue. Yes? So go on, mate, prove you are not letting      personal feuds and ill will etc get in the way of your      objective regard for the facts once they are objectively      presented (as in my post quoting the Letter itself). Give him      that apology limited to THAT at least; it's only fair; and      your credibility will only be improved if you admit your      error when faced with same. Yes? And who knows, maybe the ill      will and personal distractions may in future be reduced due      to that honest gesture. Yes? \ud83d\ude42    <\/p>\n<p>      \"The temperature of stars is directly related to the speed of      its rotation. Those with slower rotation are red, while with      the increase of the rotation speed, also increases the glow      and the temperature of a star. As a consequence, it turns      white and blue . If we consult the Hertzsprung-Russell      diagram, it is obvious that both very small and super giant      stars can have the same glow; they can be white, red or blue.      \"      from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.acade\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.acade<\/a>...rotation    <\/p>\n<p>      Please sign      in to add a comment. Registration is free, and takes less      than a minute. 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