{"id":212852,"date":"2017-03-03T19:51:37","date_gmt":"2017-03-04T00:51:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/social-conservatism-and-libertarianism-are-not-mergeable-so-stop-trying-being-libertarian.php"},"modified":"2017-03-03T19:51:37","modified_gmt":"2017-03-04T00:51:37","slug":"social-conservatism-and-libertarianism-are-not-mergeable-so-stop-trying-being-libertarian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/libertarian\/social-conservatism-and-libertarianism-are-not-mergeable-so-stop-trying-being-libertarian.php","title":{"rendered":"Social Conservatism and Libertarianism Are Not Mergeable  So Stop Trying &#8211; Being Libertarian"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    It goes without saying that libertarianism, as a political    philosophy, is fiscally conservative  i.e. that on a policy    level, the State must conserve, rather than spend on a whim.    Virtually all libertarians agree that this is technically    correct.  <\/p>\n<p>    The jury, however, is apparently still out on social issues.    Many in the libertarian movement desire a merging between    American conservatism (as opposed to virtually any other    conservative movement in the world), which includes social    conservatism, and libertarianism. Conservatism, as a political    position, is quite region-specific, and entirely relative. To    be a conservative means something different at different    times. It is not a statement of principles in and of itself,    but a belief that certain principles which are already being    adhered to, must continue to be adhered to. This is why a    European conservative is, for the most part, someone who    still desires a strong welfare role for the State, and an    America conservative is much more reluctant to support    increased welfare.  <\/p>\n<p>    Roger Toutant     recently wrote that apparently, Libertarianism is, at its    core, a fiscally and socially conservative movement. He    says this without much further ado, instead opting to hide    behind a facade of pragmatism. His reasoning goes that if    libertarians continue to represent themselves as fiscally    conservative and socially liberal (not to be confused with    welfarist social liberalism), we will never win any popular    support, because the right will refuse to get on board with our    degenerate and lost social views, and progressives will never    agree to our notion of small government.  <\/p>\n<p>    Social liberalism, which is not under discussion here,    but it is worthy to note, is a political philosophy in its own    right, with its own economic theories. Being socially liberal,    on the other hand, implies a public policy stance, as opposed    to personal liberalism, which means that the individual himself    behaves in a liberal fashion. Being socially liberal is nothing    more than the notion that the State has no right to legislate    decency or morality. (And given that were talking about    American conservatism here, I should emphasise that it does not    matter whether its a supranational government, a national    government, a provincial or state government, or a local    government). The States mandate is and always will be fixed to    protecting people and property from physical aggression,    enforcing mutually-agreed upon agreements, and guarding against    fraud. All of this, naturally, must be wrapped up in the    doctrine of the rule of law, i.e. the State cannot act    arbitrarily, everyone must be equal before the law, people can    appeal decisions, etc., etc.  <\/p>\n<p>    Toutants is not an isolated argument. Indeed, it has become    increasingly popular over the last year for    conservative-leaning libertarians to defend and emphasise the    ostensible compatibilities between libertarianism and American    conservatism, while also emphasising the    incompatibilities between traditionally left-leaning    positions where progressives and libertarians share common    ground. Christopher Cantwell is the embodiment of this worrying    trend, having    testified before a New Hampshire legislative committee that    the government should prohibit female nudity on public beaches.    He used highly-questionable arguments (including but what    about the children?) in support of this position, but at the    end of the day it was clear that his social conservatism was    rearing its head in what was supposed to be a matter left to    the political philosophy of libertarianism.  <\/p>\n<p>    The founders of libertarianism would not have bothered to    distinguish libertarianism from American conservatism. Indeed,    if American conservatism and libertarianism are as    indistinguishable as many make them out to be, why did the    distinction come about at all?  <\/p>\n<p>    This is all especially worrying to me as a South African, and,    I imagine, to many libertarians across the world (to be    anecdotal: my arguably anti-conservative Facebook posts get    more likes from my European compatriots, over the norm where    my American compatriots are mostly in the majority). In South    Africa, conservatism means a preference for Apartheid, a    highly-socialistic system founded in the very fascist notion    that the State is the embodiment of the people and enforces    their will. So when I enter into policy debates, only to have    my opponents declare with conviction that libertarianism is    conservative  no doubt something they picked up from what is    happening in America  I am placed at a significant    disadvantage.  <\/p>\n<p>    The definition of conservatism which American conservatives    have adopted enables them to relate, even if only at a    distance, to the non-national philosophy of libertarianism.    This is, however, not the case anywhere else in the world (at    least, not to this extent). Therefore, when the argument is    made that libertarianism and conservatism  or social    conservatism more particularly  should, in essence, become one    thing, a custom-made American definition is used. This is    partly the problem with the assumptions underlying Toutants    argument.  <\/p>\n<p>    Libertarianism is set apart from American conservatism in one    principal respect, which also sets it apart from progressivism,    and which is the only justification for it being distinguished    from both: individualism. A conservative, such as Toutant, can    accept the basic premises of the NAP in theory, as have many    conservative-leaning libertarians, but individualism in general    is curiously excluded in favor of other values, such as (often    bizarrely) democracy, certain social values such as the    traditional marriage.  <\/p>\n<p>    Toutants questionable interpretation of libertarianism is most    evident in the following paragraph:  <\/p>\n<p>      As far as I can tell, the vast majority of Libertarians are      conservative in nature. They do not rely on the NAP to      provide guidance to their moral behaviour, nor to help them      define what is good or evil or what actions should be      punished, or not, by the state. For that they rely on      their culture and their religion. To many, the NAP is      the equivalent of the Christian commandment, thou shalt not      steal, full stop.    <\/p>\n<p>    Being a libertarian who is personally conservative, and being a    libertarian who advocates social conservatism, are two    different things, considering that social conservatism is a    public policy position. As an individual, I am arguably    personally conservative. I believe in a higher power, I have    never tasted alcohol or nicotine, I try to be decent, and look    decent. But when my libertarian hat is on, i.e. when I engage    in political philosophy or public policy (I work in public    policy)  then I am an individualist, I am socially liberal.    And, in that respect, it is a prerequisite for a libertarian to    be socially liberal qua libertarian.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jared Howe, a Being Libertarian associate, recently    wrote in a public Facebook comment that many Americans view    libertarianism as a leftist movement due to the open border \/    free movement people. He went on to write that identity    politics is not automatically invalid, and that even    Hans-Hermann Hoppe relied on the historical and practical role    of the monogamous family in his work. I am, as some would    know, one of the open borders people. To many, that makes me a    leftist ab initio, and clearly according to Howe as    well. However, I obviously dispute this line of thinking,    especially considering the rationale most open borders    libertarians provide for their position, i.e. it is always    founded in sound libertarian theory, even if it is not    particularly Hoppean libertarian theory. Hoppes work is    invaluable, but I dont recall him being declared the final    arbiter on what is and what is not correct libertarian    thinking.  <\/p>\n<p>    Evidently, it has become problematic to use this description of    libertarianism, i.e. that we are fiscally conservative and    socially liberal. It causes confusion and opens doors which    should not even exist (such as the ostensible similarities    between libertarianism and American conservatism). Instead     and this has become more popular in certain respects  if we    want to appeal to a broad audience rather than philosophy club,    we should say we value personal and economic freedom for    individuals. In this way, we avoid the confusion between    socially liberal and social liberalism, which is a    philosophy with some unfortunate socialist connotations, and    avoid the confusion between American conservatism and    fiscally conservative.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, before we can go about reforming our marketing    strategies, we should be clear about the fact that we comprise    a distinct movement, and that while American conservatives have    been worthy and valuable allies in many battles, we have our    own agenda, which is often at odds with that of conservatives.    We are not a subsidiary, extension, or transformation of    American conservatism, but something entirely different.  <\/p>\n<p>    Our victories over the left will be meaningless if we lose our    identity in the process, instead becoming part of the    authoritarian horseshoe paradigm we naturally must oppose.  <\/p>\n<p>    * Martin van Staden is Editor in Chief of Being    Libertarian.  <\/p>\n<p>      This post was written by Martin van Staden.    <\/p>\n<p>      The views expressed here belong to the author and do not      necessarily reflect our views and opinions.    <\/p>\n<p>            Martin van Staden is the Editor in Chief of Being            Libertarian, the Legal Researcher at the Free Market            Foundation, a co-founder of the RationalStandard.com,            and the Southern African Academic Programs Director at            Students For Liberty. 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