{"id":212850,"date":"2017-03-03T19:51:35","date_gmt":"2017-03-04T00:51:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/dutch-libertarian-party-pres-robert-valentine-if-goods-dont-pass-the-border-troops-will-the-libertarian-republic.php"},"modified":"2017-03-03T19:51:35","modified_gmt":"2017-03-04T00:51:35","slug":"dutch-libertarian-party-pres-robert-valentine-if-goods-dont-pass-the-border-troops-will-the-libertarian-republic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/libertarian\/dutch-libertarian-party-pres-robert-valentine-if-goods-dont-pass-the-border-troops-will-the-libertarian-republic.php","title":{"rendered":"Dutch Libertarian Party Pres. Robert Valentine: If Goods Don&#8217;t Pass the Border, Troops Will &#8211; The Libertarian Republic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>LISTEN TO TLRS LATEST PODCAST:      <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Dries Van Thielen  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: Why will the 2017 elections be more successful    than the one in 2012?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: Like the American Libertarian    Party, the Dutch Libertarian Party was inspired by dogmatic    anarchists. However, similar to the American Libertarian Party,    we recently had a strong disagreement on approach. On the one    side, we had dogmatic theorists, stating that the libertarian    ideology could not dilute. On the other side, we had an    uprising of pragmatics  favoring a more conciliatory attitude.    We went along with the pragmatics and thus far we    reached a wider audience and I myself, receive more phone calls    from journalists. Without betraying our ideology, we composed a    more attractive program which resulted in more  and younger     members.  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: Your campaign shows similarities with Gary    Johnsons presidential campaign which was unable to attract    major media attention. What is the approach of the LP towards    media?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: For 2017, our strategy consists out    of two approaches. First, we try to attract political    attention for the upcoming elections. In doing so, we    make efforts to draw attention by focusing on social media     Twitter, Facebook, Instagram or LinkedIn  and mixing ourselves    in online discussions by creating our own content. You see,    similar to Johnson, we are never asked for political debates.    When we are debating on a local level, the audience is drawn    into our ideas since we pose a different concept than spending    more money on  topic A or B as our colleagues propose.    Political TV debates are somnolent since no party offers    solutions for ongoing problems (like poverty, ).  <\/p>\n<p>    Secondly, we try to look further than the upcoming elections.    In 2017, we will work to introduce three cornerstones    (political, intellectual and social) of libertarianism in the    LP. A political cornerstone since it is the only way to become    more influential in the Netherlands. An intellectual    cornerstone since we are too often drawn to American media    outlets (FEE, Libertarian Republic, CATO, and Mises.org,),    focusing on the United States. Instead, we would introduce our    own articles and platform  focusing on the Netherlands.  <\/p>\n<p>    Third, a social cornerstone, showing the power of freedom and    individual cooperation. We missed out on a strong equip of    volunteers throughout the years, being active in the fibers of    society will change that. Currently, we are working to maintain    and professionalize our team.  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: According to your recent Twitter campaign    (#Nexit), the Netherlands have to opt out of the EU and NATO.    Why would this be a good idea?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: People who join politics are    well-intended, I presume. They join a party with the firm    belief to change the mishaps in their respective country. So    did the EU: it started with good intentions  free movement of    goods, people and capital, a lessening of trade restrictions    These ideas are utterly libertarian-inspired, but the reality    and elaboration differ from these well-intended ideas.    Nowadays, we have an army of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels    and Luxembourg, designing our society! This is as    un-libertarian as can be.  <\/p>\n<p>    Without sounding too much like     Geert Wilders (the entire Preliminary Election    Program of PVV is 1 page long), I believe that the    EU-agreements can be summed up on 1 page: freedom and free    trade doesnt need codices. Brussels needs to disappear and The    Hague needs to retake control.  <\/p>\n<p>    As an alternative to the European Union, I would suggest the    model Switzerland holds up. Granted, it isnt a libertarian    utopia, but it only has 8 million inhabitants  divided amongst    26 cantons, each with its respective constitution. The smallest    particle decides which results in a more involved population.    The citizens witness first handed the effects of their own    policies.  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: And NATO?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: The same goes up with NATO. The    NATO pact took off with good intentions, for we have to defend    ourselves against invaders: libertarians arent pacifists.    However, similar to the EU  the intentions are overtaken by    reality.  <\/p>\n<p>    See, the moment we centralize our countrys interests, it gets    troublesome since the organization you transfer your own    interests to, has incentives of their own. In the case of NATO,    the interests of its largest member  the United States     prevail on the ones of smaller member states (Netherlands and    Belgium).  <\/p>\n<p>    It is untenable to keep this relic from the Cold War alive  as    you take into account what it is used for nowadays: bombing    sovereign states. Consistently bombing neighboring countries    will not lead to a more secure Europe.  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: Can free trade solve the question of security, as    a reaction for the dismantling of NATO? The majority of wars    are fought for a lack of free trade.  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: If    goods dont pass the border, troops will. No sane country    will put well-functioning commercial relations at risk since    every interaction is advantageous for both participants. It    would benefit the world if the world-wide free trade would be    allowed (decline of poverty as the main advantage).  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: Besides free movement of goods and capital, your    program mentions the open border solution  based on the    19th-century European model. Will every individual integrate    into this model?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: We favor the open border policy.    Every individual is free to cross borders  but we will check    in your country of origin, whether you have ties with terrorist    organizations.  <\/p>\n<p>    Also, we encourage immigrants to work as soon as they enter the    country  instead of being pampered by the government, as is    the case nowadays. Only,    we will not allow immigrants to make use of the social    benefits. In doing so, we counter the argument (theyll    ruin our welfare) made by advocates of closed borders.  <\/p>\n<p>    I find our system logical. Therefore, we counter the argument    made by Geert Wilders. He states: We have to close borders, no    one is allowed to cross borders and the Muslims already    residing in the Netherlands will soon be kicked out! These    accusations are nonsense and will harm the economy.  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: You grew accustomed to libertarianism by the    writings of Ron Paul. Do you have any book recommendations for    our readers?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: As an introduction into    libertarianism, I highly recommend Revolution: A Manifesto by    Dr. Ron Paul. Besides the classics (Economics in One Lesson    or The Law), I was impressed by Matt    RadleysThe Evolution of Everything. He refers    to himself as a libertarian in minuscule. Many libertarians are    attracted to libertarianism for its moral or economic aspect.    It never goes both ways. The entire world is driven by    invisible natural laws so it is unnecessary and illogical to    set up structures  according to Radley.  <\/p>\n<p>    Since it is election season, I am currently reading The    audacity to win by David Plouffe, Obamas    Senior Advisor. It was he who was responsible for his    (re-)election which interests me nowadays and I think it is a    good read for many (non-pragmatic) libertarians. Unfortunately,    the story does not tell itself.  <\/p>\n<p>    TLR: I heard a passionate libertarian. When do you call    the elections successful?  <\/p>\n<p>    VALENTINE: The goal of the American    Libertarian Party was to reach for 5% of the votes  mainly to    become a household name. The same goes up for us: the long-term    is more important than these elections. If we reach 1 seat in    parliament, it will be considered a grandiose success. Even if    we reach 0.5 seats, which will correspond with about 20    thousand votes, these elections will be considered successful.    This way, we will become a party worth taking into account.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    EUGlobal Politicsimmigrationlibertarian partyNAvoNetherlandsRobert Valentine  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more from the original source:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/thelibertarianrepublic.com\/if-goods-dont-pass-the-border-troops-will-interview-with-the-dutch-libertarian-party\/\" title=\"Dutch Libertarian Party Pres. Robert Valentine: If Goods Don't Pass the Border, Troops Will - The Libertarian Republic\">Dutch Libertarian Party Pres. Robert Valentine: If Goods Don't Pass the Border, Troops Will - The Libertarian Republic<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> LISTEN TO TLRS LATEST PODCAST: Dries Van Thielen TLR: Why will the 2017 elections be more successful than the one in 2012? 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