{"id":208964,"date":"2017-02-18T16:41:48","date_gmt":"2017-02-18T21:41:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/we-asked-a-duke-astronomy-professor-about-duke-alum-kyrie-irving-saying-the-earth-is-flat-for-the-win.php"},"modified":"2017-02-18T16:41:48","modified_gmt":"2017-02-18T21:41:48","slug":"we-asked-a-duke-astronomy-professor-about-duke-alum-kyrie-irving-saying-the-earth-is-flat-for-the-win","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/astronomy\/we-asked-a-duke-astronomy-professor-about-duke-alum-kyrie-irving-saying-the-earth-is-flat-for-the-win.php","title":{"rendered":"We asked a Duke astronomy professor about Duke alum Kyrie Irving saying the Earth is flat &#8211; For The Win"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    NBA champion Kyrie Irving shocked a lot of people when he    revealed that he believes the Earth is flaton    theRoad Trippin podcastthat released on    Friday morning.Then, on Friday night at NBA    All-Star weekend, Irving doubled down on his comments.  <\/p>\n<p>    For The Winwas able to get in touch with Mark    Kruse, who is a physics professor at Duke University, which is    Irvings alma mater (he only played 11 games for the Blue    Devils, but it counts). We asked him what he thinks about the    Cavs point guards beliefs in a phone call on Saturday morning.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kruse is the perfect person to talk to about this.He has    taught at Duke since 2001 and is currently teaching an    introduction to astronomy undergraduate course. Additionally,    hes doing research in elementary particle physicsat    The Large Hadron Collider (a facility in    Switzerland), where he spends a great deal of time. He said    that hes thinking about the fundamental nature of the    universe all the time.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kruses responses have been shortened for length.  <\/p>\n<p>    Irving said the following to ESPNabout his the Earth is flat    comments:  <\/p>\n<p>      I think people should do their own research, man. Then,      hopefully, theyll either back my belief or throw it in the      water, but I think its interesting for people to find out on      their own. Ive seen a lot of things that my educational      system said was real and turned out to be completely fake. I      dont mind going against the grain in terms of my thoughts      and what I believe.    <\/p>\n<p>    To that, Kruse said that he actually thinks its good that    Irving is questioning things, but that questioning if the Earth    is flat isnt exactly productive.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres a lot of misinformation out there. In some    things, its good that hes questioning established theories    but this is one that is somewhat undeniable, so he probably    shouldnt go there Things like the nature of    time, the nature of space, the nature of fundamental particles,    and theres a lot of information more recently that even    questions the possible relation of these things to our    consciousness, so I think there are deeper things he could    question rather than the shape of the Earth  <\/p>\n<p>    If its really just a metaphor for questioning    established models, then thats great. People should question    established models. Of course, if you come up with an    alternative theory, its got to be able to explain a lot of the    observations that weve made that have established the theories    we have.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the Road Trippin podcast, Irving said this:  <\/p>\n<p>      For what Ive known for as many years and what Ive been      taught is that the Earth is round, but I mean, if you really      think about it from a landscape of the way we travel, the way      we move and the fact that can you really think of us rotating      around the sun and all planets aligned, rotating in specific      dates being perpendicular with whats going on with these      planets and stuff like this  It doesnt come back. There is      no concrete information except for the information that      theyre giving us.    <\/p>\n<p>    I read that quote to Kruse word-for-word, and after a slight    pause and a chuckle, he replied:  <\/p>\n<p>    Yeah, theres a lot in that. It is true that we send space    projects to space and they dont come back, but theyre sending    signals back. They send signals back and information about what    theyre observing while they are in space. But also our theory    of gravity very beautifully explains how planetary systems are    formed, how they orbit stars, for example, our own solar    system, how our own planets in our solar system orbit our sun,    and that theory is well established. There are no observations    that contradict that, so maybe he needs to learn a little bit    more about basic physics.  <\/p>\n<p>    But hes saying if you just observe the landscape, well, if    you go back a couple thousand years ago, people did think the    Earth was flat because they looked at their landscape and they    saw it was flat. But, of course, since then theres a lot of    evidence now, as scientific knowledge improves over several    hundred years, you cant just dismiss all that other evidence     You cant dismiss all the experiments that have happened and    all the knowledge that has been accrued over the last several    hundred years that all point to the fact that the Earth is    spherical.  <\/p>\n<p>    Here Id like to note that toward the beginning of the    interview, Kruse said that hed like to give Irving the benefit    of the doubt, saying, Perhaps he was using it (the Earth is    flat) as a metaphor for just generally questioning established    models of the universe, which in a sense is great.  <\/p>\n<p>    So when Kruse said that hed like to welcome Irving to his    class, he wasnt saying it in a way to mock the point guard. He    wasgenuine. The professor would actually love to    welcomethe NBA star to sit in on one of his    classes.Kruse said of Irving:  <\/p>\n<p>    He should go and really try to understand the theories behind    what we really do understand about gravity and the orbits of    the planets, and the things like that. Hes obviously asking    questions and is curious about these things, and so he should    do his own research and come up with his own conclusions.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you come up with an alternative model, of course its got    to be able to explain all the things that we do observe, and a    flat Earth theory is not going to be able to do that, so he has    to think about it. He should read some astronomy books or take    an astronomy course, even online, or come back to Duke, sit in    on my class.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another option is to have Kruse phone in as a guest on the Road    Trippin podcast, and he and the NBA champ could simply have a    conversation, which I think would be fascinating.  <\/p>\n<p>    As for us here at FTW, I guess well go call up a    Michigan State professor next.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/ftw.usatoday.com\/2017\/02\/duke-physics-kyrie-irving-astronomy-earth-world-is-flat-science-blue-devils-cavaliers-conspiracy-theories-podcast-comments\" title=\"We asked a Duke astronomy professor about Duke alum Kyrie Irving saying the Earth is flat - For The Win\">We asked a Duke astronomy professor about Duke alum Kyrie Irving saying the Earth is flat - For The Win<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> NBA champion Kyrie Irving shocked a lot of people when he revealed that he believes the Earth is flaton theRoad Trippin podcastthat released on Friday morning.Then, on Friday night at NBA All-Star weekend, Irving doubled down on his comments. For The Winwas able to get in touch with Mark Kruse, who is a physics professor at Duke University, which is Irvings alma mater (he only played 11 games for the Blue Devils, but it counts). We asked him what he thinks about the Cavs point guards beliefs in a phone call on Saturday morning.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/astronomy\/we-asked-a-duke-astronomy-professor-about-duke-alum-kyrie-irving-saying-the-earth-is-flat-for-the-win.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-208964","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-astronomy"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208964"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=208964"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208964\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=208964"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=208964"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=208964"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}