{"id":206774,"date":"2017-02-10T20:53:50","date_gmt":"2017-02-11T01:53:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/for-church-gay-rights-trump-religious-liberty-the-american-conservative.php"},"modified":"2017-02-10T20:53:50","modified_gmt":"2017-02-11T01:53:50","slug":"for-church-gay-rights-trump-religious-liberty-the-american-conservative","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/liberty\/for-church-gay-rights-trump-religious-liberty-the-american-conservative.php","title":{"rendered":"For Church, Gay Rights Trump Religious Liberty &#8211; The American Conservative"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>        Heres news that ought to shake small-o orthodox Christians out    of their complacency regarding the future of the church in    America:  <\/p>\n<p>      The majority of Americans who identify as religious say they      favor allowing gays and lesbians to legally marry and oppose      policies that would give business owners the right to refuse      services to same-sex wedding ceremonies, according to data      compiled by the Public Religion Research Institute.    <\/p>\n<p>      Last Friday, the Washington, D.C.-based polling firm released      a new analysis drawn from interviews with 40,509 Americans      throughout 2016 for PRRIs American Values Atlas.    <\/p>\n<p>      The data, which has an error margin of less      than 1 percentage point, finds that the majority of only      three religious demographics  white evangelical Protestants,      Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses  said they oppose allowing      gays and lesbians to marry legally.    <\/p>\n<p>      While 58 percent of Americans said they support same-sex      marriage, 61 percent of white evangelical Protestants, 55      percent of Mormons and 53 percent of Jehovahs Witnesses      signaled that they oppose the legalization of same-sex      marriage, which happened in 2015 when the U.S. Supreme Court      ruled that states cannot ban same-sex marriage, making it      legal nationwide.    <\/p>\n<p>      By comparison, only 28 percent of white Mainline Protestants      and white Catholics, 25 percent of Hispanic Catholics and 30      percent of Orthodox Christians said they oppose allowing gays      and lesbians to legally marry.    <\/p>\n<p>    In the story, the conservative Methodist Mark Tooleysays    that the PRRI poll misstates what is actually at issue    regarding small business owners. Nobody has sought the right to    avoid selling to or otherwise serving gay customers. The    disputes have all been specifically about participating in    same-sex weddings. Its an important distinction, but I think    had the question been phrased more precisely, the outcome would    not have been any different.  <\/p>\n<p>    Anyway,     read the whole thing.A few things about the        data stand out to me:  <\/p>\n<p>    First, religion has been no bulwark against being    assimilated into the worlds views on fundamental principles of    Christian cosmology (i.e., how reality is    constituted), Christian anthropology (i.e., portrait of what    man is) and morality.     As I explained earlier, the gay marriage issue is what    revealed the weakness of Christianity in our culture: the    gay-rights cause has succeeded precisely because the Christian    cosmology has dissipated in the mind of the West. Excerpt:  <\/p>\n<p>      [I]ssex the linchpin of Christian cultural order? Is it      really the case that to cast off Christian teaching on sex      and sexuality is to remove the factor that givesor      gaveChristianity its power as a social force?    <\/p>\n<p>      Though he might not have put it quite that way, the eminent      sociologist Philip Rieff would probably have said yes.      Rieffs landmark 1966 book The Triumph Of the      Therapeutic analyzes what he calls the deconversion of      the West from Christianity. Nearly everyone recognizes that      this process has been underway since the Enlightenment, but      Rieff showed that it had reached a more advanced stage than      most peopleleast of all Christiansrecognized.    <\/p>\n<p>      Rieff, who died in 2006, was an unbeliever, but he understood      that religion is the key to understanding any culture. For      Rieff, the essence of any and every culture can be identified      by what it forbids. Each imposes a series of moral demands on      its members, for the sake of serving communal purposes, and      helps them cope with these demands. A culture requires a      cultusa sense of sacred order, a cosmology that roots      these moral demands within a metaphysical framework.    <\/p>\n<p>      You dont behave this way and not that way because its good      for you; you do so because this moral vision is encoded in      the nature of reality. This is the basis of natural-law      theory, which has been at the heart of contemporary secular      arguments against same-sex marriage (and which have persuaded      no one).    <\/p>\n<p>      Rieff, writing in the 1960s, identified the sexual      revolutionthough he did not use that termas a leading      indicator of Christianitys death as a culturally      determinative force. In classical Christian culture, he      wrote, the rejection of sexual individualism was very near      the center of the symbolic that has not held. He meant that      renouncing the sexual autonomy and sensuality of pagan      culture was at the core of Christian culturea culture that,      crucially, did not merely renounce but redirected the erotic      instinct. That the West was rapidly re-paganizing around      sensuality and sexual liberation was a powerful sign of      Christianitys demise.    <\/p>\n<p>    Second,the churches that have a deeper cosmology     the Roman Catholic and the Orthodox  are doing    farworse in forming the understanding of their people in    America than are Evangelicals. Look at the appalling    numbers for white Catholics. Allthose culturally    conservative Hispanic Catholics on whose backs some    conservative Catholics think a more faithful American    Catholicism will be built? The overwhelming majority favor    same-sex marriage. Same with Orthodox Christians.  <\/p>\n<p>    Somebody will eventually say in the comments thread that if the    survey had focused on people who actually go to church, the    numbers would look more favorable for Christian    traditionalists. Probably so, but I dont think they would be    that much more favorable, and even if they were,    doesnt this just go to show that Christianity is dissipating    as we move farther into post-Christianity?  <\/p>\n<p>    Third, the data show that only a slight plurality (44    percent) of American Muslims oppose same-sex marriage.    Is that not remarkable? Such is the power of American popular    culture.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fourth, these results show why the GOP Congress and    President Trump are not likely to do anything substantive to    protect the religious liberty of believers who dissent from    LGBT orthodoxy. Though its the right thing to do,    doing it would not be popular. In fact, it would tar    Congressmen and senators with the scarlet letter of bigotry    (bigotry), and for no political gain. Trump, who favors gay    marriage, doesnt really care aboutreligious liberty, and    despite campaign promises to the contrary, certainly wont    endanger the things he does care about for the sake of    taking a politically unpopular stand.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hes promising to throw EvangelicalChristians a bone by    pushing for a repeal of the Johnson Amendment, which prevents    churches from openly endorsing political candidates, or risk    losing their non-profit status.     As Tom Gjelten explains, it has been rarely enforced, but    if it were to be repealed, it would have a massive impact on    church fundraising for political candidates  and in turn, for    the politicizing of religion.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think its a terrible idea, and will corrupt the churches if    it goes through. Besides, this is not remotely the kind of    legislation that churches need right now. We need real    religious liberty legislation, like the     First Amendment Defense Act.In fact, last fall,    Trump said on his campaigns website that     if Congress passes FADA, he would sign it.I    doubt he will do that, but the GOP-led Congress should test him    on it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Sens. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee have promised to re-introduce FADA    in the Senate. Rep. Ral Labrador says he will do the same    thing in the House. Watch what happens over the next month or    so on this front. If a Republican-led Congress will not pass    FADA and send it to the presidents desk, thats game, set,    match, at least on the legislative front (well see what courts    do later). Look at the poll numbers on this issue, though, and    its hard to see any political upside to them doing so.    Religious liberty advocates would have to depend on GOP    politicians having the courage to stand on principle, even when    it might cost them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fifth and finally, these data show where the culture is    going on the issue. We small-o orthodox Christians    have lost on sexuality, which led to our loss on homosexuality,    which led to our loss on same-sex marriage, which is leading to    our loss on gender and the natural family  and which, if Mary    Eberstadt is right, will lead to the loss of religious faith.    From my forthcoming book     The Benedict Option:  <\/p>\n<p>            The fate of religion in America is inextricably tied to            the fate of the family, and the fate of the family is            tied to the fate of the community. In her 2015 book                        How The West Really Lost God, cultural critic            Mary Eberstadt argues that religion is like a language:            you can learn it only in community, starting with the            community of the family. When both the family and the            community become fragmented and fail, the transmission            of religion to the next generation becomes far more            difficult. All it takes is the failure of a single            generation to hand down a tradition for that tradition            to disappear from the life of a family and, in turn, of            a community. Eberstadt is one of a long line of            religious thinkers to recognize that when concrete            embodiments of the relationship to God crumble, it            becomes very hard to hold on to Him in the abstract.          <\/p>\n<p>          Eberstadt makes a powerful case thatwe acquire          religion not like information in a classroom, but more          like apprentices to a craftsman. That is, we learn it by          doing it, in community, most especially the community of          the family. You lose the family, she contends, and you          eventually lose God in all but the most nominal sense.          Perhaps this is why the Bible presents to us as normative          and binding what we have come to call traditional          marriage.        <\/p>\n<p>          These things do not occur in isolation. Things are          connected.You might think you can pick and          choose what to believe, based on your personal          preferences. And yes, maybe some of these things dont          really matter in the long run. Maybe. But something as          fundamental to Biblical religion as sexuality and the          family  indeed, something as fundamental to the human          experience as those things  cannot easily be changed          without tectonic results.        <\/p>\n<p>          The die is cast for American culture. Christians who are          traditionalists on matters related to sexuality and the          family are going to be tarred as bigots and pushed to the          far margins of society. We are going to have to decide          which matters more:social acceptance and material          prosperity, or fidelityto the truth. Ultimately, it          means           having to decide between shoring up theAmerican          imperium, or creating new forms of community within which          orthodox Christianity can survive.        <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Originally posted here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/dreher\/gay-rights-religious-liberty\/\" title=\"For Church, Gay Rights Trump Religious Liberty - The American Conservative\">For Church, Gay Rights Trump Religious Liberty - The American Conservative<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Heres news that ought to shake small-o orthodox Christians out of their complacency regarding the future of the church in America: The majority of Americans who identify as religious say they favor allowing gays and lesbians to legally marry and oppose policies that would give business owners the right to refuse services to same-sex wedding ceremonies, according to data compiled by the Public Religion Research Institute. 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