{"id":205580,"date":"2017-02-07T00:48:40","date_gmt":"2017-02-07T05:48:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/a-conversation-with-haroon-mirza-ocula-magazine.php"},"modified":"2017-02-07T00:48:40","modified_gmt":"2017-02-07T05:48:40","slug":"a-conversation-with-haroon-mirza-ocula-magazine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/entheogens\/a-conversation-with-haroon-mirza-ocula-magazine.php","title":{"rendered":"A conversation with Haroon Mirza &#8211; Ocula Magazine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>  Haroon Mirza, 2011. Photo: Simon Pollock.<\/p>\n<p>    I've worked with organic materials before quite a lot, mainly    water and ants. I've also worked with plants before, but not in    any great detail. I've always been interested in organic    matter, material, and organisms because of their chaotic,    unpredictable and autonomous nature, and also as a metaphor for    other things - water and the sound of water is quite    interesting because it produces white noise. Ants are chaotic    systems, so you can create truly chaotic systems from using    natural material. But then, on top of that, I've used a natural    material constantly in my work over the last 10 years:    electricity. Electricity is also a natural phenomenon, which we    kind of think we control but we don't really. Electricity is    completely chaotic.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    The most recent piece I developed with ants was called    Pavilion for Optimisation (2013). To talk about the    ants in the work, the term 'optimisation' is a mathematical    reference to a kind of logic. So for instance, satellite    navigation systems use optimisation algorithms, which they    derive from ants. Ants find a food source and use pheromones to    communicate where that source is in relation to their nest, and    then find the shortest route from the nest to the food and    communicate that. That method of communication and of finding    the shortest route is also how navigation systems work. And    it's similar with water. If you think of a window when it's    raining, you get the little droplets of water coming down a    window. The water works as a whole to create the shortest    routes, and then other particles of water can join and follow    the same route. It's partly to do with gravity as well, but    there is sort of this optimisation logic that takes place,    which is chaotic but controlled. So there is that tension in    nature. Chaos theory itself is about those sorts of structures    and logic in chaotic systems, like patterns, recognition, and    microcosms. These are really exemplified by fractals, like in    geometry. Fractals kind of work their way back round to    psychedelics and entheogens, because they're a part of what's    more commonly known as entoptic phenomenon, which is commonly    what's seen when you ingest psychedelics or you have    endogenous-altered states of consciousness. Whether it's    induced by psychedelics or by other natural means - stress to    the body, for instance - that's the first stage of psychedelic    experience: images of geometric patterns and fractals.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    The first thing that led me to psychedelics was just being a    teenager and doing LSD. Taking acid as a kid, that was my first    interaction with psychedelics. Then it kind of went away and I    sort of made sure to not really take drugs and concentrate on    other things. But I know full well those kinds of experiences    have had a profound influence on my aesthetic and theoretical    taste, specifically the aesthetics of audio or the timbre of    sound that I adopt in my work. It predates going to Brazil, but    that trip did lead me to ayahuasca.  <\/p>\n<p>    My interests lie in consciousness, and how consciousness    relates to scientific endeavours: what we know about the    physical world and universe, and how that doesn't make sense in    terms of metaphysics and consciousness, because we don't    understand consciousness in scientific terms. But we claim to    understand it through either religion or other forms of    spiritual engagement, whether it's yoga, Vedic traditions or    more westernised traditions of spiritual practice, or these    mind-altering substances or practices that do the same thing.    It's the same effect. It's not a proven thing, but it could be    argued that a high-level effect of yoga is DMT releasing in the    mind, which is the same as meditating or other spiritual    experiences. It's linking these metaphysical and physical    things, which are what we know about the world and the    universe. But what joins these two together is consciousness,    and that's the crux of my interest.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    That's a funny one, because those words literally refer to    objects that are in the piece. There's a speaker that's branded    an 'Adam' speaker and there's another that's branded 'Eve' -    they're kind of similar marketing schemes. Then there's a    little LED device that is called a UFO. So 'the others' are    just the other speakers in the installation, but at the same    time they set up this sort of narrative that has all these    references. It's a two-fold thing. It's about the real,    everyday reality of the physical, reductionist, materialist    world that we live in, which we sort of have to accept somehow    to come to consensus. But then it also refers to this    metaphysical, spiritual world that we don't really have any    access to. We're not allowed legally to take a plant out of the    ground and ingest it; we literally don't have access to this    other world, or other level of consciousness.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    There are various processes that are going on. The caps of the    mushrooms are placed onto the copper and release spores to    reproduce, so you get prints that are the fingerprint of the    mushroom. Some are done like that, some are electro-etched.    Through the mushroom you run a negative charge, and you    complete the circuit with a positive charge on the copper so    the moisture in the mushroom will actually oxidise on the    copper itself. That can be quite beautiful, and specifically    beautiful with the peyote cactus and the San Pedro cacti. A lot    of the titles refer to what they look like, so there's one that    looks like a cosmological nebula, and one that looks like a    comet. Sometimes the titles are just descriptive of what they    are - some of the mushrooms refer to constellations.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Yes, there's a sort of cosmological narrative in there - this    relationship with cosmology, ritual, and psychedelic experience    that kind of collapses. That's identified mostly in Dec    21 [a work included in the Contemporary Art Gallery show],    which is a representation of an astrotheological idea.    Astrotheologists are a group of people who believe that many    religions are tied to celestial events. One of the most famous    is the astronomical event happens every 21 December: Winter    Solstice. If you look up at the sky on 21 December, you will    see Orion. Orion's Belt has been known throughout history as    the Three Kings, and also referred to as the Three Wise Men.    Southwest of that is a very bright star called Sirius, which is    in the Canis Major constellation. If you make a line from the    three stars of Orion's Belt to Sirius and continue that line to    the horizon, on that point is where Virgo and the sun both    rise. Astrotheologists believe it was the personification of    this event that led to lots of religious ideas. Nativity, for    example, is apparently based on this: the Three Kings in the    story follow the brightest star in the sky, and then the Virgin    Mary gives birth to the Son. When you personify these celestial    objects, the story and the myth grows.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    It's pronounced 'ahh,' like you're thinking about something.    It's a funny one, because it's playing with typography. This    has more to do about typography and syntax, typography and its    relation to sound and linguistics. It comes from, in a    convoluted way, McLuhan's idea of acoustics in visual space. He    talks about how pre-linguistic man perceived visual space and    acoustic space as one form of perception. It was only with    language and the advent of syntax and spoken word that we    started abstracting the thing itself. -[O]  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Continued here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ocula.com\/magazine\/conversations\/haroon-mirza\/\" title=\"A conversation with Haroon Mirza - Ocula Magazine\">A conversation with Haroon Mirza - Ocula Magazine<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Haroon Mirza, 2011. 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