{"id":205428,"date":"2017-02-07T00:20:31","date_gmt":"2017-02-07T05:20:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/when-free-speech-turns-into-harassment-it-isnt-okay-or-legal-huffington-post.php"},"modified":"2017-02-07T00:20:31","modified_gmt":"2017-02-07T05:20:31","slug":"when-free-speech-turns-into-harassment-it-isnt-okay-or-legal-huffington-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/free-speech\/when-free-speech-turns-into-harassment-it-isnt-okay-or-legal-huffington-post.php","title":{"rendered":"When Free Speech Turns Into Harassment, It Isn&#8217;t Okay or Legal &#8211; Huffington Post"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      Why are gender pronouns being forced into      law?originally appeared on Quora - the place to gain and share      knowledge, empowering people to learn from others and better      understand the world.    <\/p>\n<p>      Answer by Jae Alexis Lee, Trans Woman, Technology      Enthusiast, Martial Arts Instructor, long time manager, on      Quora:    <\/p>\n<p>    Why are gender pronouns being forced into    law?This is a distortion of reality that's popular    in some social circles and it really, really bugs me. Let    meexplain, we'll start with the basics:    Harassment isn't okay. We good with that? I hope so because if    not there's no hope for the rest of this conversation.    Harassment isn't okay.  <\/p>\n<p>    What constitutes harassment? Well, lots of things. Anyone who's    ever been a manager for a sufficiently large corporation has    probably sat through at least one mandatory training session    about what the company considers harassment, what the law    considers harassment, and what they're expected to do about it.    We'll skip the minutia and leave it at high, high-level    concepts for now: Harassment can include physical behavior    (inappropriate touching, hitting, etc.), verbal behavior    (teasing, lewd comments, etc.) and direct actions (work    assignments, dismissals or threats of termination, etc.) Got    it? 1,000 foot level.  <\/p>\n<p>    Let's descend a bit to talk about verbal harassment. Some    things would be considered harassment regardless of the gender,    ethnicity, religion or orientation of the target. If I make a    point of loudly addressing one of my staff as \"Dumb F***\" and    pile onto that with abusive language every time I give them    instructions both in private or publicly, that's not okay. (All    right, I'm wandering into hostile work environment land    a little bit, but hang with me, we're not going to get sucked    into that level of minutia here.) If that member of my staff    quits and files for unemployment, I promise you, I'm going to    have a hard time explaining my behavior to a judge on that.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some forms of verbal harassment are unique to traditionally    oppressed groups. Racial slurs, sexist remarks, religious    slurs. We've got a list of things that as an employer, it's not    okay to call your employees. If those employees complain and we    keep doing it anyway, that's explicitly not okay.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, now we're looking at trans people, a historically oppressed    minority that studies have demonstrated face significant rates    of harassment and discrimination. Like many other groups, there    are collections of slurs and methods of being verbally abusive    that are specific to the group. In areas where we talk about    gender identity being a protected class, using trans-specific    verbally abusive language would be forbidden in the same    contexts that using racial slurs would be prohibited or making    lewd sexual comments would be forbidden.  <\/p>\n<p>    Still with me? Good. When it comes to trans people, in addition    to slurs like shemale and tranny, denying a trans    person's identity can constitute harassment. Terms commonly    used in the trans community are misgendering (referring    to a person with incorrect pronouns, or other gendered parts of    speech), and deadnaming (using a trans person's    pre-transition name.) Same as using racial slurs or making lewd    sexual comments, this kind of behavior can have significant    negative impact to the person on the receiving end of it.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, Jae, what you're telling me is that if I screw up and    call a trans man 'she' it's the same thing as if I asked my    receptionist to show me her tits?  <\/p>\n<p>    I get this a lot. No, not that exact question, but the idea    that people are afraid that screwing up will get them in legal    trouble.  <\/p>\n<p>    This isn't about verbal stumbles. In general, when we're    talking about non-discrimination legislation that creates    protection for gender identity what we're doing is placing    behavior that is explicitly anti-trans on the same level as    behavior that is specifically anti-any other protected    class.  <\/p>\n<p>    Verbal stumbles happen, we all know that. Show of hands from    everyone who's never said she when they meant to say he? Who's    never opened their mouth to mention a person by name only to    have the wrong name come out? It happens, and in general, we    make a quick comment\/apology about it, and then we move on.  <\/p>\n<p>    There's no reason to feel like a law that protects trans people    would be different in application. In any legal case we're    going to be looking at severity (saying 'show me your tits or    you're fired' is on a different level than calling someone the    'company slut' where it can be overheard, both are bad, one is    worse), there's going to be an examination of frequency, of    intent, and of circumstances.  <\/p>\n<p>    When you dig into harassment in the workplace, you learn that    there's a whole lot of gray. We can't write laws that spell out    every word that can or can't be used, or every phrase or how    often people can or can't say something. Instead, we have a    framework of guidelines that the justice system can use to    assess the situation.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, I get that Jae, but... are you saying this is just for    employers and employees?  <\/p>\n<p>    No, not at all. Looking at from a corporate perspective is easy    for me because I've been in management for so long, but it's    also an approachable lens for a broad swath of people because    most of us have had jobs at one point or another.  <\/p>\n<p>    This sort of thing applies to a large number of relationships    where there is an institutional power differential. It applies    from employer to employee where we talk about things regarding    hostile workplaces, harassment and a host of other employment    related things. It also applies when we're talking about how    law enforcement treats suspects. In investigations of bias and    excessive force, the use of slurs on the part of the LEO can be    employed as part of proving that an officer acted    inappropriately due to bias. We look at this in relationships    between teachers and students, especially in instances where    there is a reason to suspect that grading which may be    subjective has been unfair towards minority students, or that    classroom environments were too hostile for students to be able    to engage and learn. We talk about this in the contexts of    landlords and tenants, business owners and clients and on and    on and on.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fundamentally, harassment and discrimination are issues we face    in the modern world. We have laws to address these things    because harassment and discrimination aren't okay.    Legislation that adds gender identity to the list of protected    classes aren't enforcing an Orwellian form of thought control    on the population, but they recognize that trans people are    frequently targeted for harassment and discrimination. Some    laws make explicit note that misgendering and deadnaming are    specific methods by which people harass and make transgender    people feel unwelcome or unsafe.  <\/p>\n<p>    But Jae, what about free speech?  <\/p>\n<p>    You still have freedom of expression, as much as you ever did.    It hasn't gone away. Want to call me a delusional dude on your    blog? Go for it, knock yourself out. Want to demand you have    the right to call Caitlyn Jenner Bruce? Be my guest. It    isn't an issue until you do so in a way that is specifically    harmful to another person. If you're my boss, and you call me    'he' or 'it' every time you talk about me at work, then you're    going to get a complaint from me letting you know that I'm not    okay with it. I'm going to copy HR on the complaint, and if it    keeps happening then things escalate as appropriate for    the situation (that may mean internal escalations to my boss's    boss, that might entail talking to an employment attorney,    again, situational.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Speech has consequences, and in general, our rights stop when    our method of exercising them hurts other people. You're    welcome to say or think whatever you want, but in some    situations, there are things you shouldn't say because of the    harm it will cause and if you do cause damage with what you say    then you may be held accountable for the harm you caused.  <\/p>\n<p>    That's what this is about. Not about Orwellian thought police,    not about an out of control radical left, but about recognizing    that the trans population is a minority that faces significant    harassment and discrimination. That harassment and    discrimination aren't okay, and that deliberately misgendering    or deadnaming a trans person may be a form of verbal abuse that    would be actionable under appropriate laws regarding specific    forms of verbal abuse.  <\/p>\n<p>    Got it? Good, now go be nice to each other, class dismissed.  <\/p>\n<p>    This question originally appeared on    Quora - the place to gain and share knowledge,    empowering people to learn from others and better understand    the world. You can follow Quora on Twitter,    Facebook, and Google+. 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