{"id":204683,"date":"2017-01-09T17:08:30","date_gmt":"2017-01-09T22:08:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/top-five-zeitgeist-the-movie-myths-peter-joseph.php"},"modified":"2017-01-09T17:08:30","modified_gmt":"2017-01-09T22:08:30","slug":"top-five-zeitgeist-the-movie-myths-peter-joseph","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/zeitgeist-movement\/top-five-zeitgeist-the-movie-myths-peter-joseph.php","title":{"rendered":"Top Five Zeitgeist: The Movie Myths! | Peter Joseph"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>        Top Five Zeitgeist The Movie Myths!  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    1) The Zeitgeist Movement is all about support of    Zeitgeist: The Movie!  <\/p>\n<p>    Actually, as per my experience over the past 6 years, most    within The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) do not subscribe or    agree with this film in general, although mixed reactions are    most common. Zeitgeist: The Movie was created years before TZM    was formed. TZM was created originally to support Jacque    Frescos Venus Project (TVP). After TVP and TZM split three    years later, TZM became a self-propelling institution with its    own body of work. The text The Zeitgeist Movement Defined is the    core source of Movement interests and expresses what TZM is    about clearly.  <\/p>\n<p>    As of 2015, any ongoing association with TZM and Zeitgeist: The    Movie is often perpetuated by those merely with malicious    intent. As the rest of this list will express, Zeitgeist: The    Movie has been a point of extreme attack and bigoted reactions    since its inception. Having been seen by literally hundreds of    millions of people, it is no surprise so many in vehement    disagreement rise to the top. I wish I counted the number of    death threats and the amount of cyber stalking I have    personally endured. I have spent upwards of $20,000 in legal    fees fighting constant defamation by those offended by that    film.  <\/p>\n<p>    As an aside, many have suggested that a simple name change    (remove Zeitgeist) would have solved the problem. Yet, if a    name change alone is that persuasive, isnt that actually    indicative of a deep lack of critical thought? Where a mere    superficial title changes peoples sense of association? I find    this troubling if so. But regardless, the genie cannot go back    in the bottle. Love it or hate it, Zeitgeist: The Movie isnt    going anywhere and its content\/implications 8 years later seem    to only get stronger and more validated. According to my online    distributor, it is one of the most popular docs on Netflix, now    in many languages\/regions there.  <\/p>\n<p>    2) Its all been debunked!  <\/p>\n<p>    The term debunked has become a mantra of sorts by the    anti-ztm crowd. You also see this kind of overly zealous    absolutism in other communities as well, such as the atheist    community. As an atheist myself, I have learned that compassion    is much more powerful than ridicule and if the goal of any    communication is to change minds, taking a condescending and    absolute approach does nothing but inflate the initiators ego     not help educate others.  <\/p>\n<p>    In that, many interpreted the first section of Zeitgeist: The    Movie as an attack on religion. I would say it is providing a    contrary view of its history and it does so in a non-derisive    way. It is very academic in its presentation and to call it an    attack is without merit.  <\/p>\n<p>    That noted, Zeitgeist: The Movie was an art piece first and    foremost and a great deal of liberty was taken in its    expression. In the very first edition, I had a section with    John F. Kennedy talking about the grand conspiracy of    Communism and overlaid it onto his assassination footage. I    knew what I was doing and did so because it was an amazing    artistic effect. It wasnt until the film was grossly    misinterpreted in its mixed genre style and artistic license    that I later went back and made such editorial changes to    conform it to a more documentary form.  <\/p>\n<p>    I was sad to have to do this, in fact but It seems it was too    advanced a piece for common culture  and people were not ready    to be critical of such liberties; understand the context.    Zeitgeist: The Movie was the ultimate expression of demanding    critical thought. It wasnt made to declare, it was made to    challenge.Same goes for the long held up cry of manipulative    filmmaking, such as when footage of the Madrid subway bombing    was used to introduce a section on the 7\/7 London Bombings. How    dare I show a different explosion!  <\/p>\n<p>    In 2010, I cleaned it up to conform to a more traditional    documentary form and produced a free 220 booklet to support    the literally 100s of claims made in the work. To date, no one    has addressed this text. I would also add that while points    made in the film  from the origins of religion, to the events    of Sept 11th, to the history of war for profit and social    manipulation by financial interests  are subject to    interpretation and could perhaps be wrong, no single opposing    claim or group of contradictions debunks the whole film. As    the filmmaker, I will state that even I am not sure about some    of the claims as far as what the absolute truth is. But again,    that isnt the purpose of this work.  <\/p>\n<p>    3) There are no sources!  <\/p>\n<p>    I have seen this claim posted in reviews constantly. Zeitgeist:    The Movie is likely the most sourced film in documentary    history. I know of no other work that has painstakingly shown    where the content came from. Again, one can argue about the    truth of any given idea, but to say it is made up is beyond    absurd.    Companion Source Guide : <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zeitgeistmovie.com\/Zeitgeist,%20The%20Movie-%20Companion%20Guide%20PDF.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.zeitgeistmovie.com\/Zeitgeist,%20The%20Movie-%20Companion%20Guide%20PDF.pdf<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    4) Its anti-semitic!  <\/p>\n<p>    This one really took me by surprise when I starting hear about    it, especially since I end the film with one of the most heart    warming\/human unity quotes of all time by Carl Sagan. It    appears to have started with a woman named Michelle Goldberg.    She essentially stated that my use of a 1941 anti-war speech by    Charles A. Lindbergh implied this, as Lindbergh was supposedly    anti-semitic.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the opening section of part 3 of the film, she claims    Charles A. Lindbergh was talking about the jews when    describing warring interests trying to bring American into    WWII. This is just about as wrong and irresponsible as it    comes. Sadly, this theme has carried forward through history as    the echo of pro-war\/pro establishment media propaganda    redefines reality. Long story short, Charles A Lindbergh was    a famous American aviator, author, inventor, explorer, and    social activist. He was the son of Congressman Charles    Lindbergh Sr. who was extremely outspoken against the banking    system a generation prior, writing texts on the Money Trust,    referring to the financial system and its power. (He too was    often called anti-semitic with no validation as a means of    personal attack.) Charles A. Lindbergh deeply opposed    US involve in WWII. He was an isolationist. In this crusade, he    was attacked as anti-semitic in order to pollute his message.    (sound familiar?) Its that simple. To his discredit, his    speaking skills were poor and he often spoke primitively about    groups. He held some bad science views that were very common of    the time and its easy to look back on such un-informed issues    and find false relationships. Yet, his non-racist stance is    very clear to those paying attention.  <\/p>\n<p>    For example, he once stated: I am not attacking either the    Jewish or the British people. Both races, I admire. But I am    saying that the leaders of both the British and the Jewish    races, for reasons which are as understandable from their    viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which    are not American, wish to involve us in the war. We cannot    blame them for looking out for what they believe to be their    own interests, but we also must look out for ours. We cannot    allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples to    lead our country to destruction    This was a political statement, not a racist one  but the    press at the time ran that it was anti-semitic, which, again,    is a good ploy if you want people to distrust someone. We see    this technique being used today, constantly. Here are the    last lines of the speech used in Zeitgeist: The Movie (that was    called anti-semitic), along with the next sentence, not    included in the film (in bold):  <\/p>\n<p>    Our theaters soon became filled with plays portraying the    glory of war. Newsreels lost all semblance of objectivity.    Newspapers and magazines began to lose advertising if they    carried anti-war articles. A smear campaign was instituted    against individuals who opposed intervention. The terms    fifth columnist, traitor, Nazi, anti-Semitic were    thrown ceaselessly at any one who dared to suggest that it was    not to the best interests of the United States to enter the    war. Men lost their jobs if they were frankly anti-war. Many    others dared no longer speak.  <\/p>\n<p>    Later in the speech he then states: No person with a    sense of the dignity of mankind can condone the persecution of    the Jewish race in Germany.  <\/p>\n<p>    Does this sound like a racist to you? In a book written    by his wife, she states: His prewar isolationist speeches    were given in all sincerity for what he thought was the good of    the country and the worldHe was accused of being anti-semetic,    but in the 45 years I lived with him I never heard him make a    remark against the jews, not a crack or joke, and neither did    any of our children.    So what we have is a victim of the media culture, glamorized    through history with the vile horror of hindsight given the    horrors\/persecutions around WWII. Lindbergh might not    have been the smartest and most strategic in his manner of    activism and communication  but there is no evidence he was a    racist.  <\/p>\n<p>    5) Its an anti-New World Order Conspiracy    Film!  <\/p>\n<p>    Proponents who talk about the New World Order, (long before    Zeitgeist The Movie) have always agitated me. I have never    supported this bizarre and esoteric body of assumptions and, to    this day, can honestly say I have no idea how the current ideas    even came about given the origin of the original term. New    World Order is a term put forward by H. G. Wells in his book of    the same title. In this, he speaks about the world unifying as    one for the better. Since that time, however, the term has been    skyrocketed into bizarro land.The only times I have ever    sympathized with anyone who does have this pop culture belief    was when I tried and get behind it and talk about root causes    of human behavior and power abuse. And yet, even the current    Wikipedia entry on Zeitgeist: The Movie says it is about New    World Order forces But then again  its Wikipedia  the    encyclopedia that lets random opinion and select news sources    serve as historical fact.   <\/p>\n<p>    Anyway, while the very original version of the film did talk    about global government run by corporate power as an Orwellian    1984 type assumption for the future, this was artistically    presented and deduced as a result of global financial power and    the tendency to constantly concentrate this power. I later    removed this section entirely (in 2010) as I was disgusted by    the constant misinterpretations.  <\/p>\n<p>    Likewise, the notion of a Conspiracy film is equally as    misguided. This is simply derision by categorical association.    No different than how the term communist was used to force    people to shy away from any information or ideas that were    against the status quo during the Mcarthy Era in the 1950s.  <\/p>\n<p>    Zeitgeist: The Movie takes three subjects and bridges them    within the context of social myth. This context is then    evidenced to show how people become biased and can be    manipulated based upon those dominant shared (bogus) beliefs    (hence the term zeitgeist itself).  <\/p>\n<p>    In the context of the real world, power abuse is obvious since    the nature of our economy supports massive class division and    the movement of power and money to a small group. This isnt    conspiracy  it is a system reality. We live in a war system    and massive gaming for personal\/group self-interest is    happening at every moment.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats enough for now.   <\/p>\n<p>    ~Peter Joseph, Feb 22nd 2015  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to see the original: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/peterjoseph.info\/top-five-zeitgeist-movie-myths\/\" title=\"Top Five Zeitgeist: The Movie Myths! | Peter Joseph\">Top Five Zeitgeist: The Movie Myths! | Peter Joseph<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Top Five Zeitgeist The Movie Myths! 1) The Zeitgeist Movement is all about support of Zeitgeist: The Movie! Actually, as per my experience over the past 6 years, most within The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) do not subscribe or agree with this film in general, although mixed reactions are most common. Zeitgeist: The Movie was created years before TZM was formed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/zeitgeist-movement\/top-five-zeitgeist-the-movie-myths-peter-joseph.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[431584],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-204683","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-zeitgeist-movement"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204683"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=204683"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204683\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=204683"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=204683"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=204683"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}