{"id":17048,"date":"2010-05-06T19:50:25","date_gmt":"2010-05-06T19:50:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/50-million-neandertals-genetically-gene-expression\/"},"modified":"2010-05-06T19:50:25","modified_gmt":"2010-05-06T19:50:25","slug":"50-million-neandertals-genetically-gene-expression","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/astronomy\/50-million-neandertals-genetically-gene-expression.php","title":{"rendered":"50 million Neandertals (genetically) | Gene Expression"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/johnhawks.net\/weblog\/reviews\/neandertals\/neandertal_dna\/neandertals-live-genome-sequencing-2010.html\">John Hawks has a very long post up<\/a>. This part caught my attention:<\/p><blockquote><p>We don&rsquo;t really know the answers, but now we have a chance to test hypotheses about ancient population size and expansion in Neandertals. My point at the moment is only this: If today Neandertal genes make up only one percent of the gene pool of the 5 billion people outside Africa,<b> that&rsquo;s the genetic equivalent of 50 million Neandertals.<\/b><\/p><\/blockquote><p>As Hawks notes later, this paper comes pretty close to resolving whether Neandertals were of the same species as we moderns, at least using the <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.blackwellpublishing.com\/ridley\/a-z\/Biological_species_concept.asp\">biological species concept<\/a>. There were fertile hybrids. That should not be too surprising, a few years ago when the Neandertal introgression story was big I looked into mammalian embryology, and our lineage had to be very special as mammals went for their to be inter-population sterility.<\/p><p>This is not just a science story. <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/gnxp\/2010\/05\/breaking-theres-a-little-bit-of-neandertal-in-all-of-us\/comment-page-1\/#comment-22903\">Dave Chamberlain<\/a> observes:<\/p><blockquote><p>Anyone else notice that the artists depictions of neanderthals have slowly changed from stupid brute monkey men to ruggedly handsome moderns with a protruding brow? Hmmm, I bet they get even more good looking now. Hawks promises all neanderthals all the time, I for one can&rsquo;t get enough of it.<\/p><\/blockquote><p>I think that this will change our perceptions, and &ldquo;artists&rsquo; renderings&rdquo; quite a bit. A few years ago when it seemed that Neandertals may have been <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/gnxp\/2007\/10\/neandertals-had-red-hair-ok-some\/\">highly depigmented<\/a> I observed that it was a bit strange that in most depictions they tended to be rather dark and swarthy as Europeans go (most famously in Jean Auel&rsquo;s work the <i>H. sapiens sapiens<\/i> were Aryan <i>&Uuml;bermensch<\/i> while the Neandertals were small and dark). I think some of the same subconscious dynamic was at play as when <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tom_Coburn#.22Schindler.27s_List.22_TV_broadcast\">Tom Coburn was outraged at the TV nudity of <i>Schindler&rsquo;s List<\/i><\/a>. Coloured people naked on a <i>National Geographic<\/i> special is one thing, but white people should be decent! (and please, don&rsquo;t accuse me of seeing racism where it isn&rsquo;t. If you know me you know that I&rsquo;m not super-obsessed with that sort of thing, but I think it&rsquo;s pretty obvious that there&rsquo;s a lot of implicit assumptions which go into being a white European, and how one views someone and how they should behave)<\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/f3852_JPksuw-r0eg\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>John Hawks has a very long post up. This part caught my attention:We don&rsquo;t really know the answers, but now we have a chance to test hypotheses about ancient population size and expansion in Neandertals. My point at the moment &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/astronomy\/50-million-neandertals-genetically-gene-expression.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17048","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-astronomy"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17048"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17048"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17048\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17048"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17048"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17048"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}