{"id":168695,"date":"2024-03-10T03:14:27","date_gmt":"2024-03-10T07:14:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.immortalitymedicine.tv\/elon-musk-tried-to-merge-tesla-and-openai-emails-reveal-electrek\/"},"modified":"2024-08-18T12:48:59","modified_gmt":"2024-08-18T16:48:59","slug":"elon-musk-tried-to-merge-tesla-and-openai-emails-reveal-electrek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/elon-musk\/elon-musk-tried-to-merge-tesla-and-openai-emails-reveal-electrek.php","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk tried to merge Tesla and OpenAI, emails reveal &#8211; Electrek"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    In response to Elon Musks lawsuit against OpenAI, the company    answered by releasing emails from Elon Musk showing that he    actually supported OpenAI pivoting to a for-profit model and    even merging with Tesla.  <\/p>\n<p>    OpenAI, an AI company now famous for its ChatGPT chatbot based    on large language models, was originally co-founded by Tesla    CEO Elon Musk as a non-profit.  <\/p>\n<p>    In 2018, Muskleft OpenAIs    boardand cited a potential conflict with Teslas own    AI effort as the reason for severing ties with the company at    the time. The main issue seems to be a competition for AI    talent between OpenAI and Tesla  though Musk has since said    that he also disagreed with OpenAIs direction on AI safety and    moving from a non-profit organization to a for-profit.  <\/p>\n<p>    Over the last few months, and especially since he launched his    own AI startup (outside of Tesla), xAI, Musk has been hammering    OpenAI over its move to a for-profit structure.  <\/p>\n<p>    During that time, OpenAI continued to make waves in the AI    industry  most recently through the unveiling of Sora, an    impressive AI text-to-video generator.  <\/p>\n<p>    Earlier this week, Musk went as far as filing a lawsuit against    OpenAI in which he accused the company of prioritizing profits    over public good and going against its original mission.  <\/p>\n<p>    Today, OpenAI fought back with a blog post in which the company said    it plans to move to dismiss all of Elons claims. The company    showed proof, including emails, that Musk said that OpenAI    wouldnt be helpful as a non-profit and he supported a move to    for-profit:  <\/p>\n<p>      In late 2017, we and Elon decided the next step for the      mission was to create a for-profit entity. Elon wanted      majority equity, initial board control, and to be CEO. In the      middle of these discussions, he withheld funding. Reid      Hoffman bridged the gap to cover salaries and operations.    <\/p>\n<p>    When that didnt sit well with the rest of OpenAI, Musk shifted    strategy and suggested to merge OpenAI into Tesla:  <\/p>\n<p>      We couldnt agree to terms on a for-profit with Elon because      we felt it was against the mission for any individual to have      absolute control over OpenAI. He then suggested instead      merging OpenAI into Tesla. In early February 2018, Elon      forwarded us an email suggesting that OpenAI should attach      to Tesla as its cash cow, commenting that it was exactly      right Tesla is the only path that could even hope to hold a      candle to Google. Even then, the probability of being a      counterweight to Google is small. It just isnt zero.    <\/p>\n<p>    OpenAI released an email from Musk to prove this chronology of    events. Musk forwarded an email from a person whose name has    been redacted. In that email, the person explains the logic for    merging OpenAI and Tesla. Musk wrote that the person is    exactly right.  <\/p>\n<p>    Here are the emails:  <\/p>\n<p>    Honestly, I dont know what to think at this point. I dont    know if I was always wrong about Elon. I dont know if he    changed drastically over the last few years or if he just got    worse at hiding his true self, but this is not the man I used    to consider my hero.  <\/p>\n<p>    For months, Elon has been publicly bashing OpenAI for its pivot    to for-profit and now we learned that he himself admitted that    it wont be able to survive as a non-profit and supported the    pivot  though only if he is in control of the company as its    own entity or within Tesla.  <\/p>\n<p>    This is a high level of hypocrisy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Elon completely supported the shift to for-profit (as long as    he was in control of it), but now he has decided the bash the    move and even sue the company as he started a competing    startup. If you think thats a coincidence, I have a bridge to    sell you.  <\/p>\n<p>    That said, based on those emails, he does ultimately seem to    want AI to be good for humanity, but his methods are    questionable. He requires us to just trust him entirely, which    is so hard to do these days.  <\/p>\n<p>    This whole thing supports what Sam Altman said last year: Elon    desperately wants the world to be saved, but only if he is the    one saving it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Also, its just a coincidence that by him saving the world    from AI\/with AI, he would own the entities getting extremely    valuable from it. Just a coincidence.  <\/p>\n<p>      FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links.      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