{"id":167550,"date":"2023-11-02T11:54:23","date_gmt":"2023-11-02T15:54:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.immortalitymedicine.tv\/my-film-is-for-the-pigs-heather-dewey-hagborg-on-hybrid-an-filmmaker-magazine\/"},"modified":"2024-08-17T15:53:30","modified_gmt":"2024-08-17T19:53:30","slug":"my-film-is-for-the-pigs-heather-dewey-hagborg-on-hybrid-an-filmmaker-magazine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/human-genetic-engineering\/my-film-is-for-the-pigs-heather-dewey-hagborg-on-hybrid-an-filmmaker-magazine.php","title":{"rendered":"&quot;My Film is For the Pigs&quot;: Heather Dewey-Hagborg on Hybrid: an &#8230; &#8211; Filmmaker Magazine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Heather Dewey-Hagborg is on a mission to confront the    uncomfortable future, especially when it comes to emerging    tech. Stranger Visions features portrait sculptures    crafted from analyses of genetic material the transdisciplinary    artist, educator and filmmaker literally picked up in public    places (one persons discarded cigarette butt is anothers way    into a strangers DNA).     T3511, a collaboration with cinematographer    Toshiaki Ozawa (Laurie Andersons Heart of a Dog),    sees an anonymous saliva sample become fodder for the    alchemizing of the perfect romantic partner.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now theres Hybrid: an Interspecies Opera, perhaps    Dewey-Hagborgs most ambitious work to date. Opening at    NYCs    Fridman Gallery on November 1, the multimedia project    includes a short documentary\/personal narrative set to an    original score alongside a set of (robotically-constructed and    clay-fired) memorial pig sculptures, which allude to the    xenotransplantation topic at hand as well as the question of    whether genetically engineering bovine for the sole purpose of    harvesting hearts for human transplantation is the ethical easy    call Big Tech would like us to make (and believe).  <\/p>\n<p>    Just prior to the artworks New York debut, Filmmaker    reached out to Dewey-Hagborg to learn more about enmeshing the    scientific and the personal to shape a career in biopolitical    art.  <\/p>\n<p>    Filmmaker: What initially led you to explore    the biomedical realm?  <\/p>\n<p>    Dewey-Hagborg: This started more than 10 years    ago, when I became entranced with emerging possibilities of    genomics in my project Stranger Visions. The first    community biohacker lab had just opened in Brooklyn (Genspace),    and I became a member and learned all about DNA. What I    realized at that time was that so much was happening so fast in    biotech, but it wasnt getting the same critical, artistic    attention as digital technology was. Well, this is still true,    and I am committed to changing that.  <\/p>\n<p>    Filmmaker: How did Hybrid: an Interspecies    Opera originate? Do you see it as an extension of that    previous work Stranger Visions and (your collaboration    with Toshiaki Ozawa) T3511?  <\/p>\n<p>    Dewey-Hagborg: Yes, but also it is a pretty    different approach for me in a number of ways. The musical    collaboration with Bethany Barrett was something very new for    me, and now working on transforming it into a live opera    performance (which will premiere next year at the Exploratorium    on March 7 and 8) is a really exciting but also very    challenging new direction. The film itself has some    similarities to T3511 in that both are unusual forms    of documentary and exist as records of my practice, but also    hopefully transcend this to stand as emotionally relatable    media that draws the viewer into contemplating those topics of    DNA privacy and xenotransplantation, respectively, more deeply.  <\/p>\n<p>    Filmmaker: How did this idea of turning this    piece into an opera come about? What was the actual process of    developing the score and working with the various musicians?  <\/p>\n<p>    Dewey-Hagborg: I was invited to work on a new    piece about gene editing by the MIT Museum and guest curator    William Myers. I had been intrigued by xenotransplantation for    quite some time because it was the place where the most    simultaneous gene edits had occurredin order to make pigs    essentially more human. Usually I like to work hands-on in the    lab, but with this piece getting access to the kinds of labs    that do this work was really prohibitively difficult, because    of the controversy surrounding it and the fragile nature of    this very experimental new technique. Additionally, it was    during the height of COVID.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, I started the project with a lot of research. I began    interviewing scientists that study pigs and    xenotransplantation, as well as archaeologists who study the    evolution of the pig. I really wanted to get at this question    of whether gene editing was something radically new or a    continuation of 10 millennia of domestication and selective    breeding (as molecular biologists often posit). I began having    these Zoom sessions and recording them, then I started working    with the wordstranscribing them, editing themand was struck    by the beauty, poetry, humor and drama I was hearing from my    interlocutors. I just started pulling sentences and arranging    them into small poems, and suddenly I heard them in my head in    opera voice. I thought, Maybe that is the form this should    take. Maybe music should convey the emotional layers of this    emerging technology.  <\/p>\n<p>    I wrote the libretto and went through several iterations and    experiments until finally a friend recommended composer Bethany    Barrett, who is based in Berlin. She wrote the music and sent    me the names of singers she wanted to work with, and we just    continued to pass ideas and recordings back and forth.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now, in working on the live production, I have a music    director, Sam Faustine; an associate director, Becca Wolff; and    a local crew of singers in San Francisco. Its really an    incredible team. (Also, the staff at the Exploratorium has been    wonderful.) We rehearse together because my (speaking) parts    are intertwined with the singing. It is such an amazing feeling    standing onstage and hearing these powerful voices sing the    words I wrote live.  <\/p>\n<p>    Filmmaker: Why do you bring personal narrative    into your art?  <\/p>\n<p>    Dewey-Hagborg: When I was an undergraduate art    student I was taught not to: I was told to keep my work    conceptual, impersonal, abstract. And while I love work like    that too, ultimately it was not my voice. The personal for me    is authentic. I want to put my subjectivity forward. I really    enjoy enmeshing the scientific and the personal, the messy and    the clean. I call it writing through. I like to write my    experience through the scientific and technological critique.    It feels real to me and more honest than a standard documentary    would. And I hope it brings an emotional layer that people can    relate to. But every project is different, and I try to listen    to the material and orient my approach in a way to best serve    its dimensions.  <\/p>\n<p>    Filmmaker: Youve spoken in the past about    your discomfort with both corporations and governments having    such easy access to our genetic material be it through    seemingly benign ancestry tracing sites or even COVID    testingand you also seem similarly uneasy with    xenotransplantation and genetically engineering pigs for human    hearts (i.e., for humanitys greater good). So, what sorts of    change do you ultimately hope to accomplish through your    biopolitical art?  <\/p>\n<p>    Dewey-Hagborg: Some issues are very    straightforward, but most are complex and contain layers of    tradeoffs. Xenotransplantation is clearly a morally complicated    issue. The goal with my work generally is to question the    status quo, to advocate for critical attention and debate to    topics that are under-discussed. With all the reports in the    last year of the remarkable progress in xenotransplantation,    there is little to no discussion of the animals whose lives are    taken. This is not to say I advocate for a ban on the practice,    but I dont think it makes sense to completely skip over    discussing the moral dilemma, when we are setting structures    into place now that will frame how the future unfolds. When I    started the project, I tried to get access to the leading    xenotransplantation company in the US to shoot and they told me    straight up, We dont want people thinking about pigs. So, my    film is for the pigs.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>View post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/filmmakermagazine.com\/123544-interview-heather-dewey-hagborg-hybrid-an-interspecies-opera\/\" title=\"&quot;My Film is For the Pigs&quot;: Heather Dewey-Hagborg on Hybrid: an ... - Filmmaker Magazine\" rel=\"noopener\">&quot;My Film is For the Pigs&quot;: Heather Dewey-Hagborg on Hybrid: an ... - Filmmaker Magazine<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Heather Dewey-Hagborg is on a mission to confront the uncomfortable future, especially when it comes to emerging tech. 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