{"id":165426,"date":"2014-12-10T03:02:54","date_gmt":"2014-12-10T08:02:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/volokh-conspiracy-ninth-circuit-hears-nsa-program-challenge.php"},"modified":"2014-12-10T03:02:54","modified_gmt":"2014-12-10T08:02:54","slug":"volokh-conspiracy-ninth-circuit-hears-nsa-program-challenge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/fourth-amendment-2\/volokh-conspiracy-ninth-circuit-hears-nsa-program-challenge.php","title":{"rendered":"Volokh Conspiracy: Ninth Circuit hears NSA program challenge"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    On Monday, the Ninth Circuit held oral argument in Smith v.    Obama, a Fourth Amendment challenge to the Section 215    telephony metadata program. You can watch a video of the    argument     here. The panel     consisted of Judges Hawkins, McKeown, and Tallman. This was    the third argument by a federal circuit involving a challenge    to the telephony metadata program. The others are the Second    Circuit and the DC Circuit, neither of which has handed down a    ruling yet.  <\/p>\n<p>    To win the case before the Ninth Circuit, the plaintiff needs    to win on three basic questions: 1) did the plaintiff have    standing; 2) did a search occur; and 3) was the search    constitutionally unreasonable. There was significant    questioning on standing and a lot on what is a search, but very    little on reasonableness. On the whole, I think that emphasis    is probably a good sign for the government. With that said, Im    not sure which way the case will come out. Judge Tallman seemed    pretty likely to vote for the government on either or both of    the first two questions. I had less sense where Judges Hawkins    and McKeown might come out.  <\/p>\n<p>    I want to focus on an interesting question that Judge McKeown    asked Thomas    Byron, counsel for the government defendant: When applying    the reasonable expectation of privacy test, how do we know what    society expects when it comes to a big surveillance program    like Section 215s program? Byron gave what I think is the    correct doctrinal answer: Smith v. Maryland tells us    as a matter of law that people have no reasonable expectation    of privacy in pen register data from their phones, and there is    nothing in Smith that suggests that scale or    aggregation can make any difference. Although thats a good    doctrinal answer, I think theres a historical explanation that    is more satisfying. I cover the historical explanation in    this    forthcoming article, starting at page 11, and I thought I    would give a basic outline here.  <\/p>\n<p>    As I explain in the article, the original design of Justice    Harlans two-part Katz test was to summarize the two    basic requirements of establishing Fourth Amendment rights:    first, that the intrusion was into the kinds of spaces that the    Fourth Amendment protects, like homes or cars or (in    Katz) telephone booths; and second, that the person    had not openly exposed his protected space to outside    observation. The first part was labeled the objective test,    as it rested on whether the space invaded was the kind of space    that merited Fourth Amendment protection in a general sense;    and the second test was labeled the subjective test, as it    hinged on whether the person took steps to hide the space from    outside observation, manifesting an intent to keep it private    in those specific circumstances.  <\/p>\n<p>    The rule that you cant have any Fourth Amendment protection in    what you share with a third-party was originally part of the    subjective test. By revealing your information to a third    party, the thinking ran, you no longer manifested an intent to    keep your information private and gave up your rights in that    information. The government therefore could get it from the    third party without implicating your rights. Although that was    the original design of Harlans test, later opinions of the    Court misunderstood this point. Later decisions, including    Smith v. Maryland, simply assumed that the test    labeled subjective was an inquiry into what a person actually    expected to happen. Smith had to fit the traditional    rule that a person has no Fourth Amendment rights in what they    disclose to third-parties somewhere, however, so the    rule ended up being squeezed artificially into the reasonable    expectation of privacy test instead. The result has confused    law students for decades: We get the strange-seeming    announcement that theres no reasonable expectation of privacy    in circumstances when a lot of people probably think it feels    pretty reasonable to them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Why does all this matter? I think it matters because it shows    that Judge McKeowns question is based on the Smith    courts accidental rephrasing of the third-party rule.    Understanding the accident explains why the question that seems    really difficult at first blush ends up having a simple answer.    The reason the government does not violate the Fourth Amendment    rights of a telephone user when collecting metadata from the    phone company should have nothing to do with what society    expects. Instead, the reason is that if you knowingly disclose    information to a third party, you are not manifesting your    subjective expectation of privacy in that information and dont    have any way to control it under the Fourth Amendment as a    matter of law. From that perspective, we dont need to know    what society expects, or what privacy policies say, to apply    the third-party doctrine. What society expects is irrelevant,    as the doctrine was originally and properly rooted in the    subjective test instead of the objective test.  <\/p>\n<p>    To be clear, the doctrinally correct result Byron offered    brings you to the same result in the end. If you say that    Smith v. Maryland requires lower courts to say that    there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in pen register    information as a matter of law, you get to the same result that    no search has occurred. But I hope its at least a little bit    illuminating to see how we got here, and in particular to see    why applying Smith does not call for courts to make    first-principles inquiries into societal expectations.  <\/p>\n<p>      Orin Kerr is the Fred C. Stevenson Research Professor at The      George Washington University Law School, where he has taught      since 2001. He teaches and writes in the area of criminal      procedure and computer crime law.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>View original post here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.washingtonpost.com\/c\/34656\/f\/636635\/s\/4140e6f9\/sc\/1\/l\/0L0Swashingtonpost0N0Cninth0Ecircuit0Ehears0Ensa0Eprogram0Echallenge0C20A140C120C0A90C9257d6f60E380A50E48920E9fb70E6e0A3dcd3f810A0Istory0Bhtml0Dwprss0Frss0Inational\/story01.htm\/RK=0\/RS=MKLIoZINZXrGSUS6jsJqVkOFz.4-\" title=\"Volokh Conspiracy: Ninth Circuit hears NSA program challenge\">Volokh Conspiracy: Ninth Circuit hears NSA program challenge<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> On Monday, the Ninth Circuit held oral argument in Smith v.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/fourth-amendment-2\/volokh-conspiracy-ninth-circuit-hears-nsa-program-challenge.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[261461],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-165426","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fourth-amendment-2"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/165426"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=165426"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/165426\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=165426"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=165426"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=165426"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}