{"id":162368,"date":"2014-11-27T17:58:17","date_gmt":"2014-11-27T22:58:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/metals-stocks-gold-is-effectively-shiny-bitcoin-citigroups-buiter.php"},"modified":"2014-11-27T17:58:17","modified_gmt":"2014-11-27T22:58:17","slug":"metals-stocks-gold-is-effectively-shiny-bitcoin-citigroups-buiter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/bitcoin-2\/metals-stocks-gold-is-effectively-shiny-bitcoin-citigroups-buiter.php","title":{"rendered":"Metals Stocks: Gold is effectively shiny Bitcoin: Citigroups Buiter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    MADRID (MarketWatch)A six-thousand year old bubble, shiny    Bitcoin, and something that no self-respecting central bank    should hold in reserves ever.  <\/p>\n<p>    That was Citigroup analysts, laying into gold in a note that    came out a day ahead of Thanksgiving, as the investment bank    opened the debate on golds value ahead of a crucial decision    by Switzerland on whether the central bank should more than    double its gold holdings.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Save Our Swiss Gold campaign aims to    force the Swiss National Bank to hold a fifth of its assets in    gold within five years and prohibit the bank from selling gold    in the future, as well as repatriate any gold overseas.    Organizers accuse the bank of mismanaging the nations wealth    property.  <\/p>\n<p>    While gold bugs are hoping for a yes vote, most analysts    dont see that happening. December gold GCZ4, -0.57% which traded around    $1 lower to $1,195.60 an ounce on Thursday in electronic    trading, with U.S. physical markets closed for Thanksgiving    Day, has seen a choppy year, which has left prices more or less    flat.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the note, Citis global chief economist, Willem Buiter, said    the Swiss vote doesnt even make sense. Requiring a central    bank to put 20% of its balance sheet in any single commodity,    even if that commodity had meaningful intrinsic value,    represents a highly unorthodox and risky investment strategy    he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    And its also a custodial riskholding all of a nations    physical assets in one place and preventing the SNB from ever    selling gold again would in short make those holdings    worthless, he added.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another reason central banks shouldnt be dropping a chunk of    reserves into gold? The price is volatile. The below chart    shows gold on a nominal basis, which show its money values in    different years, and real value, which adjusts for price levels    in those years. As far as real prices are concerned, if someone    had held on to gold in 1971 and held it up to 2013, the annual    real return would be 4.3%, said Buiter. Reasonable given the    riskiness of the asset.  <\/p>\n<p>    Gold is like Bitcoin: Buiter says gold is    unlike any other commodity, and the only thing that comes close    to it is Bitcoin and other virtual currencies. Gold is costly    to extract from the ground and refine to a degree of purity,    its also costly to store and has no real use as a producer    good, and other alternatives are out there for industrial uses.  <\/p>\n<p>    Gold has become a fiat commodity or a fiat commodity currency,    just as the U.S. dollar, the euro, the pound sterling and the    yenare fiat paper currencies and as Bitcoin is a flat virtual    currency, said Buiter. The main differences between them are    that gold, like Bitcoin, is very costly to produce, while the    production of additional paper money has an extremely low    marginal cost.  <\/p>\n<p>    Count up the deposits of commercial banks with the central    banks, which together with currency in circulation make up the    monetary base, as fiat money, then the incremental cost of fiat    base money creation is zero, he said.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.marketwatch.com\/news\/story.asp?guid=%7B93E21FD8-7626-11E4-9A41-09788FCD4AAE%7D&siteid=rss\/RK=0\/RS=mcT3CSa1YJkXRzWaN2WTiOcrbhc-\" title=\"Metals Stocks: Gold is effectively shiny Bitcoin: Citigroups Buiter\">Metals Stocks: Gold is effectively shiny Bitcoin: Citigroups Buiter<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> MADRID (MarketWatch)A six-thousand year old bubble, shiny Bitcoin, and something that no self-respecting central bank should hold in reserves ever. That was Citigroup analysts, laying into gold in a note that came out a day ahead of Thanksgiving, as the investment bank opened the debate on golds value ahead of a crucial decision by Switzerland on whether the central bank should more than double its gold holdings.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/bitcoin-2\/metals-stocks-gold-is-effectively-shiny-bitcoin-citigroups-buiter.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[261455],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-162368","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bitcoin-2"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/162368"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=162368"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/162368\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=162368"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=162368"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=162368"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}