{"id":1426,"date":"2009-12-13T08:37:46","date_gmt":"2009-12-13T08:37:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/long-qt-syndrome-location-matters\/"},"modified":"2009-12-13T08:37:46","modified_gmt":"2009-12-13T08:37:46","slug":"long-qt-syndrome-location-matters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-medicine\/long-qt-syndrome-location-matters.php","title":{"rendered":"Long QT Syndrome, location matters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_H2O5TGQzVII\/Svg-FuAO0pI\/AAAAAAAABLg\/tk5IaRMwzRY\/s1600-h\/maybe2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\" src=\"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/13810_maybe2.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402136021000180370\"><\/a><br><span><span>I just saw a family who had Long QT with a <span>KCNQ<\/span>1 mutation ripping through them. Which is why I loved this email I received from one of my long time readers the day after I saw them.<\/span><\/span><\/p><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><a href=\"http:\/\/circ.ahajournals.org\/cgi\/content\/extract\/120\/18\/1745\"><span><span>Closer Look at Genetic Testing in Long-QT syndrome<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>One of my favorite lines from this paper was<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>\"<\/span><\/span><span><span>Nothing tests the tools of clinical risk prediction quite like<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>sudden death.\"<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><span>Ummmm<\/span>......Uh Huh.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>They go on to say<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>\"The difficulties encountered in the clinical<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>application of genetic data, even in inherited conditions such<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>as the long-QT syndrome (<span>LQTS<\/span>), in which the transmitted risk<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>of sudden death is several hundred-fold greater than that in<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>the general population, highlight some of the hurdles that must<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>be overcome if DNA diagnosis is ever to transform cardiovascular<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>medicine. \"<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>The reader then went on to send me a <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2009\/11\/091105132458.htm\"><span><span>release from <span>ScienceDaily<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>But I should probably give you some background.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>Long QT syndrome is a condition where the electrical activity in your heart is faulty. In fact, the conduction system has dangerous delays that can lead to dangerous heart rhythms which cause sudden death.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>It is so serious that in every single patient I see, I ask \"Has anyone in your family died suddenly or in their sleep? Has anyone had any crib death? Any sudden unexplainable car accidents?\"<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>This is my lay screen for Sudden Cardiac Death (<span>SCD<\/span>).<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>Long QT is one of the causes of <span>SCD<\/span>. The rate is about 1 in 2000 or so. In 10% of people roughly, the first symptom is sudden death. This can be due to exertion, stress, auditory triggers.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>A <span>multicenter<\/span> study was performed to evaluate genetic \"noise\" in 1400 controls and approximately 400 subjects (<a href=\"http:\/\/thegenesherpa.blogspot.com\/2009\/11\/good-enough-science.html\">Far more than the <span>Norovirus<\/span> resistance gene for 22<span>andSerge<\/span><\/a>)<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>What did they find? They found some noise......of course. <\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>This noise was present in about 4% of controls. This is surprisingly low in my estimate......<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>What else did they find? They found a genotype\/phenotype correlation. Which in <span>Autosomal<\/span> Dominant disease is also no big surprise. Which likely will be augmented with modifier genes.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>What is the \"noise rate\" for other genes? That, my friend is a good question. <\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>What is noise? It could be anything we haven't classified as for certain pathogenic or benign. For <span>BRCA<\/span> we call these changes \"Variants of Uncertain Significance\" or affectionately known as <span>VUSes<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>The <span>VUS<\/span> rate for <span>BRCA<\/span> is anywhere between 10 and 15 percent. Which is why I was so surprised about the <span>LQTS<\/span> study. <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/bookshelf\/br.fcgi?book=gene&amp;part=rws\"><span><span>Heck, there are more than 2 genes involved in  <span>LQTS<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>So why is this noise such a big deal? As we reach the precipitously dropping cost of the genome, we will be able to have a whole bunch of noise......<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>In fact, I think it will take us at least 20 years to sort out that noise. Add on layers of <span>epigenetics<\/span> and we may have another 20 years.......<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>Why so glum? We do have pretty valid clinical testing for Sudden Cardiac Death. It works, MOST of the time. Whole Genome Scanning?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>Well, that may be a different story. I have harped on the<\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/jama.ama-assn.org\/cgi\/content\/extract\/296\/2\/212\"><span><span> <span>Incidentalome<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span><span> several times on the blog, but this bears repeating.........<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>\"<\/span><\/span><span><span> If practitioners pursue these unexpected <\/span><\/span><span><span><sup><\/sup>genomic findings without thought, there may be disastrous consequences.<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>First, physicians will be overwhelmed by the complexity of pursuing<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>unexpected genomic measurements. Second, patients will be subjected<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>to unnecessary follow-up tests, causing additional morbidity.<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>Third, the cost of genomic medicine will increase substantially<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>with little benefit to patients or physicians (but with great<\/span><\/span><sup><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/sup><span><span>financial benefits to the genomic testing industry), \"<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>-Zak <span>Kohane<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>\"<span>Mathematicians<\/span> modeled sequencing the whole genome. As they get up to sequencing 10.000 people they find that the fraction of the population with a false positive result skyrockets up to 60%. What <span>does this<\/span> mean? Well, we have to carefully select who we test. Or better yet we need an immense database of \"Normal Variants\". At a minimum we will need 1000s of \"sequence specialists\" or \"computer sequence analysis programs\" to evaluate and decide if the \"work up\" is indicated or not. Personal <span>Genomics<\/span> is very complex, even more than personalized medicine.\"<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>-Steven Murphy in 2007<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><b><span>The Sherpa Says: In <span>Genomics<\/span>, there is going to be a whole <span>lotta<\/span> maybes........which in case you are curious, computers handle very poorly....<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/80d6c_6173393362223742012-5375713076987971158?l=thegenesherpa.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I just saw a family who had Long QT with a KCNQ1 mutation ripping through them. Which is why I loved this email I received from one of my long time readers the day after I saw them.Closer Look at &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-medicine\/long-qt-syndrome-location-matters.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1426","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-genetic-medicine"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1426"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1426"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1426\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1426"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1426"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1426"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}