{"id":138027,"date":"2014-08-31T17:01:17","date_gmt":"2014-08-31T21:01:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/volokh-conspiracy-thuggery-wins-free-speech-rights-lose.php"},"modified":"2014-08-31T17:01:17","modified_gmt":"2014-08-31T21:01:17","slug":"volokh-conspiracy-thuggery-wins-free-speech-rights-lose","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/first-amendment-2\/volokh-conspiracy-thuggery-wins-free-speech-rights-lose.php","title":{"rendered":"Volokh Conspiracy: Thuggery wins, free speech rights lose"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The free speech rights here were  as in many free speech cases     the rights of pretty rude speakers, certainly ones whose    message and manners I do not endorse. But the First Amendment    protects the rude as well as the polite, especially given how    subjective government judgments of rudeness usually end up    being.  <\/p>\n<p>    Here are the facts, from the majority opinion in Bible    Believers v. Wayne County (6th Cir. Aug. 27, 2014)    (some paragraph breaks added throughout the block quotes    below):  <\/p>\n<p>      The City of Dearborn in Wayne County, Michigan, has hosted      the Arab International Festival  every summer from 1995      until 2012. A three-day event that was free and open to the      public, the Festival welcomed roughly 250,000 attendees and      featured carnival attractions, live entertainment,      international food, and merchandise sales. [The panel later      agreed that the festival was a \"traditional public forum\" at      which public speech is fully constitutionally protected,      rather than private property or even public property that was      temporarily exclusively leased by a public organization. -EV]          <\/p>\n<p>      [T]he Bible Believers came bearing strongly worded t-shirts      and banners:    <\/p>\n<p>        [Chavez] wore a t-shirt with the message, Fear God on the        front and Trust Jesus, Repent and Believe in Jesus on the        back. Fisher wore a t-shirt with the message, Trust Jesus        on the front and Fear God and Give Him Glory on the back,        and he carried a banner that said on one side, Only Jesus        Christ Can Save You From Sin and Hell, and on the other        side it said, Jesus Is the Judge, Therefore, Repent, Be        Converted That Your Sins May Be Blotted Out. Other        messages conveyed on t-shirts, signs, or banners displayed        by the [other Bible Believers] included, among others,        Fear God, Trust Jesus, Repent and Believe in Jesus,        Prepare to Meet Thy God  Amos 4:12, Obey God, Repent,        Turn or Burn, Jesus Is the Way, the Truth and the Life.        All Others Are Thieves and Robbers, and Islam Is A        Religion of Blood and Murder.      <\/p>\n<p>      One Bible Believer carried a severed pigs head on a stick,      which Chavez explained protected the Bible Believers by      repelling observers who feared it. Appellants soon began      preaching using a megaphone, and a small crowd formed around      them almost immediately. [The police eventually told the      speakers that megaphone use was forbidden by ordinance, and      the speakers stopped; that restriction is not challenged      here. -EV] Chavez castigated the crowd for following a      pedophile prophet and warned of Gods impending judgment.      As this evangelizing continued, the crowd yelled back. At      this point, a ribbon-cutting at the opposite end of the      Festival occupied a majority of the [Wayne County Sheriff's      Office] officers, but one officer watched from the outskirts      of the crowd.    <\/p>\n<p>      As the Bible Believers moved deeper into the Festival, the      crowd  a good portion of which appeared to be minors       continued to gather and yell. Some people started throwing      debris  including rocks, plastic bottles, garbage, and a      milk crate  at the Bible Believers. Someone in the crowd      also shoved one Bible Believer to the ground. Some WCSO      officers detained debris-throwers while other officers      hovered at the edges of the crowd. Eventually, after about      thirty-five minutes, the Bible Believers temporarily stopped      preaching and stood as the crowd harangued them and hurled      objects. Several officers, including some mounted units,      attempted to quell the crowd.    <\/p>\n<p>      After about five minutes of standing quietly, the Bible      Believers began to move and preach again. As they did so, the      cascade of objects intensified. Deputy Chiefs Richardson and      Jaafar approached them a few minutes later. Jaafar explained      that they could leave and that their safety was in jeopardy      because not enough officers were available to control the      crowd.    <\/p>\n<p>      The Bible Believers, however, continued to preach, followed      by what had swelled into a large crowd. Richardson and Jaafar      then took Chavez aside to speak with him. Richardson noted      his concern that Chavez was bleeding from where a piece of      debris had cut his face. Richardson explained that he was      responsible for policing the entire Festival, that Chavezs      conduct was inciting the crowd, and that he would escort the      Bible Believers out of the Festival     <\/p>\n<p>      As Richardson insisted that the Bible Believers leave lest      someone  a Bible Believer, a Festival goer, or an officer       be injured, Chavez asked if they would be arrested if they      refused; Richardson replied, Probably we will cite you.      This conversation replayed several times, with Chavez      pressing for an answer and Richardson replying that the Bible      Believers were a danger to public safety. Chavez eventually      snapped, I would assume a few hundred angry Muslim children      throwing bottles would be more of a threat than a few guys      with signs.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See more here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.washingtonpost.com\/c\/34656\/f\/636635\/s\/3de8be4e\/sc\/38\/l\/0L0Swashingtonpost0N0Cthuggery0Ewins0Efree0Espeech0Erights0Elose0C20A140C0A80C270Cce3d0A8f60Ec5610E44c10E887b0E4440A32b3bd560Istory0Bhtml0Dwprss0Frss0Inational\/story01.htm\/RK=0\/RS=rrMjgP8wHaMYSkxLSSfqU5QAdjY-\" title=\"Volokh Conspiracy: Thuggery wins, free speech rights lose\">Volokh Conspiracy: Thuggery wins, free speech rights lose<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The free speech rights here were as in many free speech cases the rights of pretty rude speakers, certainly ones whose message and manners I do not endorse. But the First Amendment protects the rude as well as the polite, especially given how subjective government judgments of rudeness usually end up being <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/first-amendment-2\/volokh-conspiracy-thuggery-wins-free-speech-rights-lose.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[261459],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-138027","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-amendment-2"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138027"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=138027"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138027\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=138027"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=138027"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=138027"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}