{"id":1063291,"date":"2012-06-03T15:52:45","date_gmt":"2012-06-03T15:52:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.longevitymedicine.tv\/california-stem-cell-hoopdedoo-over-rick-perry-strange-bedfellows-and-education-of-politicians\/"},"modified":"2024-08-17T20:28:28","modified_gmt":"2024-08-18T00:28:28","slug":"california-stem-cell-hoopdedoo-over-rick-perry-strange-bedfellows-and-education-of-politicians-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/stem-cell-therapy\/california-stem-cell-hoopdedoo-over-rick-perry-strange-bedfellows-and-education-of-politicians-2.php","title":{"rendered":"California Stem Cell Hoopdedoo Over Rick Perry: Strange Bedfellows and Education of Politicians"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~a\/IG5ZoYp4-0RSUhVrcGW_GHc8ctw\/0\/da\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.longevitymedicine.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/26a8a_di\" border=\"0\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/a><br><a href=\"http:\/\/feedads.g.doubleclick.net\/~a\/IG5ZoYp4-0RSUhVrcGW_GHc8ctw\/1\/da\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.longevitymedicine.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/26a8a_di\" border=\"0\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/a><\/p><p><\/p><div><\/div><div><\/div><div>A onetime aspirant to become the leader<br>of the free world was in California recently touring the lab of a<br>stem cell researcher in La Jolla.<\/div><div><\/div><div>The visit was somewhat unusual. The<br>visitor was <b>Rick Perry<\/b>, the governor of Texas who campaigned<br>unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for president and who is<br>a strong opponent of hESC research. The lab is run by <b>Scripps<\/b>' <b>Jeanne<br>Loring,<\/b> who engages in hESC research among other things.<\/div><div><\/div><div>The event &ndash; if you can call it that &ndash;<br>also led to a video on <b>YouTube<\/b> of Perry at the lab, three blog<br>items  by <b>UC Davis<\/b> stem cell researcher <b>Paul Knoepfler <\/b>and<br>responses from Loring and <b>Michael Thorsnes,<\/b>&nbsp; who put up<br>the video and who has what he modestly describes as<br>\"significant political experience\" in the Democratic party.<br> Thorsnes, a retired San Diego lawyer and now <a href=\"https:\/\/picasaweb.google.com\/111649646686061256155\">a photographer<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usdvicam.com\/michael-t-thorsnes.html\">raised about $5.4 million<\/a> for <b>John Kerry<\/b>'s and <b>Al Gore<\/b>'s<br>presidential efforts as well as other Democrats.<\/div><div><\/div><div>Issues raised in all the hoopdedoo include<br>consorting with the enemy, openness, exploitation of scientists for<br>political gain, public education and education of political leaders,<br>promotion of patient causes, rushing to judgment and even strange<br>bedfellows.<\/div><div><\/div><div>As far as we can tell, Perry's visit<br>received no attention in mainstream media, but Thorsnes, a key figure<br>in arranging the visit, put up a video of it on the Internet.<br>Knoepfler, who is the rare stem cell scientist with a blog, saw the<br>video and on May 21 raised what he now calls <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipscell.com\/2012\/05\/great-letter-on-guv-perrys-california-visit-video-from-the-artist\/\">\"a big stink\"<\/a><br>in a blog posting.  Subsequently Knoepfler toned down the language in<br>that item because of what he says was its \"overly extreme<br>verbiage.\"<\/div><div><\/div><div>For several years now, Knoepfler has<br>been writing a fine blog that deals mostly with stem cell science but<br>also public policy, biotech business and more.  Unfortunately,<br>however, his original item is no longer available, but our<br>recollection is that Knoepler's item was strong, indicating that<br>Loring should not have allowed the visit because it would bolster the<br>political fortunes of an enemy of science or at least hESC science.<br>Knoepfler cited what he called the campaign-style video as evidence<br>of exploitation.&nbsp;<\/div><div><\/div><div>On May 24, after a related May 22 item dealing with Rick Perry, Knoepfler said he <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipscell.com\/2012\/05\/bombshell-texas-guv-perry-visits-human-embryonic-stem-cell-lab-at-scripps-institute\/\">rewrote the original item <\/a>to temper his comments as a result of learning more<br>about what led up to the visit. &nbsp;&nbsp;That included more information from Thorsnes, who is chair of the executive advisory board of the<br>Parkinson&rsquo;s Disease Association of San Diego.&nbsp;<\/div><div><\/div><div>Loring was quoted in original item as<br>saying,&nbsp;<\/div><blockquote><p>\"I think that scientists have an obligation to educate the<br>public. I welcome visits from both stem cell proponents and<br>opponents, so I have a chance to clarify any misconceptions about<br>what it is that we really do. We have to figure out how to deal with<br>our opponents as well as our friends. I have a policy of welcoming<br>opponents so I can teach them. It works. Education wins minds.\"<\/p><\/blockquote><div>The <b>California Stem Cell Report<\/b><br>queried Loring about any additional comments she had on the subject.<br>She replied,<\/div><blockquote><p>\"Governor Rick Perry left my lab<br>understanding far more about induced pluripotent stem cells than he<br>did when he arrived.   If we don't engage those who don't share our<br>views, who will tell them the truth?  How will they know that we are<br>ethical and working to improving human health?&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote><blockquote><p>\"The visit was arranged by Michael<br>Thorsnes, a well-known Democratic fundraiser.  He is a very<br>impressive person who knows politicians of every stripe, and he<br>arranged the meeting with Perry so that I could explain our project<br>to make iPSCs from people with Parkinson's disease, and our work<br>using iPSC derivatives in multiple sclerosis.  Perry is promoting<br>'adult' stem cell therapy in Texas, and I wanted to be sure that he<br>understood the difference between 'adult' stem cells and pluripotent<br>stem cells.  He does.  Educating those in positions of power is one<br>of our responsibilities, and I take it very seriously.\"<\/p><\/blockquote><div>Our take: Perry is first and foremost a<br>politician with large ambitions. It is more than legitimate to think<br>about how such a visit might be used or misused. Nonetheless,<br>foregoing the opportunity to educate political leaders, who control<br>research spending in this country, means isolation of the scientific<br>community and less understanding on the part of lawmakers. As far as<br>Perry's possible political gain is concerned, it is conceivable that<br>the visit could backfire on Perry should a political opponent<br>characterize the Loring lab tour as some sort of endorsement by him<br>of hESC research.<\/div><div><\/div><div>Everybody's particular interests were<br>at work in this episode: Thorsnes' desire for support for his cause,<br>Perry's political schmoozing and his own special interest in stem<br>cells &ndash; pro adult and con hESC, and  Loring's desire to promote<br>scientific research in general and to educate a major political<br>figure.<\/div><div><\/div><div>As for the video, Knoepfler now says he<br>would allow a lab visit by Perry but no video. But in this digital<br>age, that condition could kill a likely visit. If researchers want to<br>talk to politicians &ndash; and they should -- risks are always involved,<br>but that is the price of relying on public funding and building<br>public enthusiasm for continued support.<\/div><div><\/div><div>One final note: Earlier in this item,<br>we said it was unfortunate that the original Knoepfler post is not<br>available. Without being able to read the original, it is difficult<br>to completely understand the subsequent string of events. On the<br>California Stem Cell Report, when corrections or other changes are<br>made, we always retain something to show what the original item said<br>and note where changes are made and why. It keeps the record straight<br>and provides a necessary paper trail. All in all, however, from<br>Perry's visit to today, it has been a robust and healthy exchange for<br>the stem cell community and beyond.<\/div><div><\/div><div><\/div><div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.longevitymedicine.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/e84f1_10000891-7811090188645917384?l=californiastemcellreport.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/div><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.longevitymedicine.tv\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/e3cd2_5_B88prYQ58\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\">Source:<br><a href=\"http:\/\/californiastemcellreport.blogspot.com\/feeds\/posts\/default?alt=rss\">http:\/\/californiastemcellreport.blogspot.com\/feeds\/posts\/default?alt=rss<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A onetime aspirant to become the leaderof the free world was in California recently touring the lab of astem cell researcher in La Jolla.The visit was somewhat unusual. Thevisitor was Rick Perry, the governor of Texas who campaignedunsuccessfully for the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/stem-cell-therapy\/california-stem-cell-hoopdedoo-over-rick-perry-strange-bedfellows-and-education-of-politicians-2.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":64,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[25,1246878],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1063291","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-stem-cell-therapy","category-stem-cells"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1063291"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/64"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1063291"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1063291\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1063291"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1063291"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1063291"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}