{"id":1048288,"date":"2024-04-09T12:57:04","date_gmt":"2024-04-09T16:57:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.immortalitymedicine.tv\/how-the-greys-anatomy-crew-works-with-real-life-doctors-to-bring-the-most-complicated-procedures-to-tv-shondaland-com\/"},"modified":"2024-08-17T17:54:25","modified_gmt":"2024-08-17T21:54:25","slug":"how-the-greys-anatomy-crew-works-with-real-life-doctors-to-bring-the-most-complicated-procedures-to-tv-shondaland-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/anatomy\/how-the-greys-anatomy-crew-works-with-real-life-doctors-to-bring-the-most-complicated-procedures-to-tv-shondaland-com.php","title":{"rendered":"How the &#8216;Grey&#8217;s Anatomy&#8217; Crew Works With Real-Life Doctors to Bring The Most Complicated Procedures to TV &#8211; Shondaland.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    If you thought a lot went into creating every episode    of  <\/p>\n<p>    Dr. Arizona Robbins made a triumphant return to Grey Sloan    Memorial Hospital this week, stopping by to do a groundbreaking    surgery that reminded Dr. Miranda Bailey just how magical the    OR can be. In the episode, titled Baby, Can I Hold You,    Arizona performs the first-ever in utero vein of Galen surgery    on a fetus, with the help of Dr. Jo Wilson and Dr. Amelia    Shepherd.  <\/p>\n<p>    The vein of Galen is essentially a blood vessel, which can    malfunction and cause heart and lung issues, and if the baby    doesnt receive surgery in time, it can be fatal. Its very    rare, and surgery is usually done after the baby is born. But    remarkably, ambitious doctors, including the one who inspired    this story, Dr. Darren Orbach, are now attempting to work in    utero. Though Arizonas procedure on a visually impaired    pregnant woman, played by Aria Mia Loberti, is touted as the    inaugural surgery on-screen, it has actually been done successfully a    few times in real life.  <\/p>\n<p>    When we wanted to bring [Arizona] back, we wanted to do    something really cool, explains Dr. Michael Metzner, a    producer and medical adviser on Greys Anatomy. Her    character has so much history on this show of being a badass    and pushing the envelope, and I think this medical story does    just that.  <\/p>\n<p>    To bring the surgery to life on-screen, Metzner and the    Greys crew worked with the real doctors and hospitals    involved in the experimental technique. Here, he breaks down    how they did it.  <\/p>\n<p>    EMILY ZEMLER: When an episode includes an experimental    surgery, how involved are you in helping to shape how its    written?  <\/p>\n<p>    MICHAEL METZNER: Im in the writers room, so    Im pitching stories. A lot of times, that will be Whats the    theme of the episode? How do we create a medical story that    pairs with it? Some of these stories are our stories with our    own patients and things that weve gone through in training. I    have a lot of fellow physicians call me all the time and say,    Oh, my God, Michael, you have no idea what I just saw.  <\/p>\n<p>    We also have a researcher who is not medically trained but is    always scouring the headlines for new and cool things that are    happening within medicine. So, its a team effort. Im the only    physician who is in the writers room and is on set to work    with all the actors and directors, and I also do all the    postproduction. So, I get to actually see the idea be created,    and help to create it, and then actually make it happen, and    then work in the back end as well.  <\/p>\n<p>            Miranda Bailey (Chandra Wilson) and Dr. Arizona Robbins            (Jessica Capshaw) presenting the innovative surgery.          <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: Has a vein of Galen surgery been done in utero    before?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: They were looking at this research back in    the 90s, but all of the outcomes were really bad. All of the    babies died. So, no ones touched it in a long time. It is not    standard of care by any means, and right now its still    experimental. But at this point, I believe five surgeries now    have been done, and they have all been successful. The    technology has come a pretty long way since the first time that    these things were attempted.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: How did you incorporate the real-life medical    research and surgeries into the episode?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: Once we saw the headline about it, we    reached out to Boston Childrens Hospital and Dr. Darren Orbach,    who is the physician who helped to develop this new technique.    We brought him on as a consultant and interviewed him many    times to make sure that we were getting this as accurate as    possible, just because its a very controversial thing. Its    still in its experimental stage, so there are a lot of fetal    surgeons who advocate against doing something like this because    of the history of it. But now, there are these cases in small    numbers that have been successful.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: What did Dr. Orbach share that was    helpful?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: For the FDA and IRB [Institutional Review    Board] approvals, they had to make these phantom skulls with    different possibilities of skull thickness where they actually    practice putting needles through different thickness of skulls.    That way, whoever the neuro-interventionalist is working on it    will get the feel of what that would be like. It was actually    what the real doctors practiced on. So, the prop skulls that we    used in the episodes were the real ones from Boston Childrens    and Brigham & Womens Hospital at Harvard. You can see them    when Amelia is working in the skills lab with a needle.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: Was it difficult to borrow something like    that?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: We had to have the sign-off from the    surgeon from two different hospitals, plus the family whose    fetus was worked on. I was trying to coordinate all of that to    make sure everyone was on the same page. And the images we used    were the actual images from the surgery. So, what youre seeing    in the background on our show is actually them doing the    surgery in Boston, which is pretty cool. Thats all real.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: Is it typical that Greys    Anatomy would use real scans or images of    a procedure in an episode?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: When a surgery has only been done a few    times, thats the only thing we can use. Weve done it in the    past. Some of the images from our partial heart transplant last    season were from [a real] OR. Later this season, we have a    device were showing off, and we flew the inventor in from    Sweden and put him and his wife in a scene. We have a lot of    footage of all the different surgical procedures we will use.    But if it is something super-special like this, and we can get    the physician and the family and the hospital to agree, then we    will use it.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: What were the challenges of bringing this surgery    to life on-screen?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: I remember calling Dr. Orbach and saying,    I need to know every single needle and every single piece of    equipment, to the detail that you used. We actually reached    out to those companies and got the specific things that they    would use to make it as accurate as possible. Then, I worked    with our video-playback person to cut up the visual    representations of the surgery to what would match to the    scenes of the story were trying to tell. I worked with the    actors and the director to have them mimic whats going on in    the surgery footage with their hands and with the actual    equipment to marry the two.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: Is it accurate that the mother would be awake for    the surgery?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: For pregnant women, we try not to do    anesthesia, so they would be completely awake. They have an    epidural, so they dont feel anything. And they often put    headphones or music on. She was lying on the table with a fake    pregnancy belly. Depending on what were shooting, we can    sometimes film separate scenes with the patient, but for this    one I think she was there the entire time. She had breaks, but    she was lying down on the OR table.  <\/p>\n<p>    EZ: Did you have any special guests in the episode    besides Jessica Capshaw?  <\/p>\n<p>    MM: We flew Dr. Orbach in, and I put him in    the surgery scene. So, the gentleman across from Amelia and    Arizona is actually Dr. Orbach, who is holding the ultrasound.    The coolest thing is that when its done, theres one shot    where you can tell hes smiling under his mask, and it felt    historic. We have this cool story, and then heres the man who    was one of the inventors of the method in the scene.  <\/p>\n<p>    Emily Zemler is a freelance writer and journalist based in    London. She regularly contributes to the Los Angeles    Times, Rolling Stone, PureWow, and TripSavvy, and    is the author of two books. Follow her on Twitter @emilyzemler.  <\/p>\n<p>    Get Shondaland directly in your    inbox:  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.shondaland.com\/shondaland-series\/a60400126\/how-the-greys-anatomy-crew-works-with-real-life-doctors-to-bring-the-most-complicated-procedures-to-tv\/\" title=\"How the 'Grey's Anatomy' Crew Works With Real-Life Doctors to Bring The Most Complicated Procedures to TV - Shondaland.com\" rel=\"noopener\">How the 'Grey's Anatomy' Crew Works With Real-Life Doctors to Bring The Most Complicated Procedures to TV - Shondaland.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> If you thought a lot went into creating every episode of Dr. Arizona Robbins made a triumphant return to Grey Sloan Memorial Hospital this week, stopping by to do a groundbreaking surgery that reminded Dr. Miranda Bailey just how magical the OR can be.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/anatomy\/how-the-greys-anatomy-crew-works-with-real-life-doctors-to-bring-the-most-complicated-procedures-to-tv-shondaland-com.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[577281],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1048288","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anatomy"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1048288"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1048288"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1048288\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1048288"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1048288"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1048288"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}