{"id":1027770,"date":"2024-01-07T02:40:28","date_gmt":"2024-01-07T07:40:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/which-nazi-ideas-am-i-supposed-to-debate-for-your-profit-daily-kos.php"},"modified":"2024-01-07T02:40:28","modified_gmt":"2024-01-07T07:40:28","slug":"which-nazi-ideas-am-i-supposed-to-debate-for-your-profit-daily-kos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/nazi\/which-nazi-ideas-am-i-supposed-to-debate-for-your-profit-daily-kos.php","title":{"rendered":"Which Nazi Ideas am I Supposed to Debate for Your Profit? &#8211; Daily Kos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    I am behind on this, of course, but the leaders of Substack    have responded to the letter voicing concerns about the    monetization of Nazi newsletters on Substack. I    signed the letter, and Substacks leadership was quite clear    that they intended to go on making money from people who wish    to kill and oppress their fellow humans. I am not    surprised the VC class as a whole seems very alt-right\/Nazi    curious. I havent decided what to do with this    newsletter. Moving it would require money, something this    newsletter definitely does not make. But I am coming back    to this because one aspect of the response stuck out to me:  <\/p>\n<p>      I just want to make it clear that we dont like Nazis      eitherwe wish no-one held those views. But some people do      hold those and other extreme views. Given that, we don't      think that censorship (including through demonetizing      publications) makes the problem go awayin fact, it makes it      worse.    <\/p>\n<p>      We believe that supporting individual rights and civil      liberties while subjecting ideas to open      discourse is the best way to strip bad ideas of      their power.    <\/p>\n<p>    Emphasis mine.  <\/p>\n<p>    This comment leaves me with a question: Which Nazi ideas,    specifically, does the Substack leadership think have power?    I mean, we have seen Nazism in its full glory: it led to    a massive world war, oppression of anyone the Nazis did not    like, and perhaps the worlds first industrialized genocide.    Which of those ideas am I supposed to debate? Which    violent eliminationism is worthy of further refutation?    Is it the genocide? The demand for others land for    themselves? The idea that once race is inherently    superior to others and thus can oppress and murder the others    at will?   <\/p>\n<p>    See, my mothers family is Polish. By which I mean they    all immigrated from Poland. Some of my uncles were old    enough to have lived through the Second World War. I    dont have all of the details (gee, Uncle Frank, what did you    do in the war? is not a question a child asks of the    obviously very angry, very damaged man who survived), but I do    know that the Nazis debated with my family members and their    countrymen with a bullet to their heads. Explain to me,    again, why that idea is worthy of monetization? How,    precisely, is a parlor debate about whether my relatives, and    anyone who doesnt fit their notion of a true human, deserve to    live in anyway going to refute the idea more effectively than    the outcome of WWII?  <\/p>\n<p>    Because Nazis dont respect democracy. They dont debate in    good faith, and they arent interested in the give and take of    a pluralistic society. They demand power and they seek to    attain through violence. The idea that you can talk them    down from that position is insane. All allowing them on    your platform does is allow them the infrastructure necessary    to spread their hate.   <\/p>\n<p>    De-platforming works. Not all speech    is deserving of support. You cannot shout fire in a    crowded theater, to use the cliche, and companies make    decisions all the time about what does and does not constitute    acceptable speech on their platforms. Substack leadership    knows both of these positions are true: they ban porn and    sex workers from their platform. No, pretending that you    can reason with people who wish to destroy democracy is nothing    more than a disingenuous attempt to profit from pro-genocide    and other anti-democratic positions while providing a fig-leaf    to keep others from abandoning their platform.  <\/p>\n<p>    There are no Nazi ideas with power. History has    thoroughly refuted them to anyone who wishes to see. You    are not required to give platforms to people who wish to    destroy your tolerant society. But the Substack    leadership obviously cares more about the money the Nazis bring    them than about preserving democracy or a tolerant, pluralistic    society.  <\/p>\n<p>    As I said, I am not sure what I am going to do with this    newsletter. It is a hobby. I have roughly 120    subscribers, and dont even have a paid option. Even    if I did, it is unlikely I could bring in enough to pay for    other services. But I do know that I am not going to play    the Substack leaders game and pretend that I must take    seriously the disproven ideas of the people who wish to destroy    my family, my friends, and my society. No amount of money    should be worth that.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/stories\/2024\/1\/3\/2214943\/-Which-Nazi-Ideas-am-I-Supposed-to-Debate-for-Your-Profit\" title=\"Which Nazi Ideas am I Supposed to Debate for Your Profit? - Daily Kos\">Which Nazi Ideas am I Supposed to Debate for Your Profit? - Daily Kos<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> I am behind on this, of course, but the leaders of Substack have responded to the letter voicing concerns about the monetization of Nazi newsletters on Substack. I signed the letter, and Substacks leadership was quite clear that they intended to go on making money from people who wish to kill and oppress their fellow humans. I am not surprised the VC class as a whole seems very alt-right\/Nazi curious.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/nazi\/which-nazi-ideas-am-i-supposed-to-debate-for-your-profit-daily-kos.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1122885],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1027770","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nazi"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1027770"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1027770"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1027770\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1027770"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1027770"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1027770"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}